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CCP Fozzie just stole money from me.

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eeyan spork
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2017-02-23 23:22:06 UTC
With one post CCP Fozzie just devalued our Rorqual pilots.

Your injected SP just loss half its value.

I injected 60 billion isk worth of SP, which is now worth 30 billion if I extract it.

So I am out 30 billion.

That is about 30 plexs, which translates to approximately $450.

That is F!@#&^% Felony theft.
Zeewolf 46137
Saor Alba
#2 - 2017-02-23 23:29:12 UTC
I assume something hilarious has just happened, but I'm just too lazy to find out for myself.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2017-02-23 23:30:59 UTC
tell us more so we can blame you harder

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Dark Lord Trump
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2017-02-23 23:31:05 UTC
Zeewolf 46137 wrote:
I assume something hilarious has just happened, but I'm just too lazy to find out for myself.

Rorqual nerf.

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!

eeyan spork
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2017-02-23 23:33:34 UTC
Dude if you calculate the loss in value for every active rorq pilot in game, it's probably in the hundreds of thousands of dollars he just stole from everyone.


Amojin
Doomheim
#6 - 2017-02-23 23:36:43 UTC
Nothing was stolen from any of you. You paid a price, in real money. You received an object. At the creation of this object, CCP's obligation is terminated.

You should expect nerfs. Hell, most of you fly flavor of the month ships, spending gods knows how much SP to get there, and every time CCP says jump, you ask how high?

What did you expect?
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#7 - 2017-02-23 23:38:03 UTC
eeyan spork wrote:
That is F!@#&^% Felony theft.

Go get them, tiger.

But before you pay an expensive lawyer that then tells you that the supposed thing they "stole" from you belonged to them all along, read the EULA.
Also, you're entitled to nothing. You made a choice, you used those SP to exploit a broken mechanic in dire need of balancing and now you're butthurt about it being nerfed.

Oh, and bashing Fozzie for that? Like, is he solely responsible? I can guarantee you that he's not. He just happens to be the person to announce it. Almost everyone at CCP will be in agreement with these changes, so why don't you blame the company as a whole instead of that one single person that people love to bash for whatever reasons?

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Soel Reit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2017-02-23 23:42:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Soel Reit
ahahahahha get fuc... OP LolLolLol
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2017-02-23 23:44:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Bjorn Tyrson
stop being so damn dramatic.
1) the rorqual has been in need of a nerf for a while. your total yield might go down, which means that shock and awe... a MINING SUPPORT SHIP is going to need to actually... y'know... support other ships for max yield rather than accomplish it solo. the thing it was originally designed to do. in case you didn't notice, yes excavator drones have been nerfed, but the mining boost bonuses have been increased by 10%

2) your SP are worth the exact same amount they where before, the injector market doesn't give a damn if its roqual skills your extracting, or titan skills, they are all valued the same. YOU chose to spend the isk to inject the rorqual skills, you still have access to those skills, and those skill points, you knew when you injected them that you would be getting the diminishing returns effect. if those 60b can only be extracted and sold for 30b, well thats something you knew going into it. and so long as you made more than 30b in profits mining (which if you didn't WTF are you doing) the you still made a profit off of it. so stop whining.

also: is it just me or are nullbear tears so much more delicious than the high-sec variety?
eeyan spork
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2017-02-23 23:48:28 UTC
Class action lawsuit!!! Citing emotional distress of thousands of customers....


I think they would settle out of court.

We could get our money back maybe....
Amojin
Doomheim
#11 - 2017-02-23 23:48:44 UTC
@Bjorn

Actually, those of us that loved DUST 514, have a HELL of a lot more right to whine. A lot of people paid a lot of real money, and CCP pulled the rug out from under us. I paid some, knowing that this would happen, eventually. But, still. DUST 514 I found to be an awesome game, better even that CoD.

But CCP said no.
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2017-02-24 00:01:08 UTC
Amojin wrote:
@Bjorn

Actually, those of us that loved DUST 514, have a HELL of a lot more right to whine. A lot of people paid a lot of real money, and CCP pulled the rug out from under us. I paid some, knowing that this would happen, eventually. But, still. DUST 514 I found to be an awesome game, better even that CoD.

But CCP said no.


Never said anything about the dust 514 players, really sucks that they pulled the plug on that game because I thought it had the potential to be awesome. its a ****** situation for sure, but completely unrelated in any way to OP's complaint. because he DOES still have his rorqual, he still has the skills, injectors and extractors still cost about the same as they always did. so sure his isk/hr might go down (unless he adapts and starts using his support ship to support a fleet rather than solo) the only thing he has lost was his completely broken resource faucet that was having a noticable and arguably detrimental effect on the game as a whole.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#13 - 2017-02-24 00:15:34 UTC
This will end well.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Amojin
Doomheim
#14 - 2017-02-24 00:15:35 UTC
I know you didn't. I was just adding it in for some perspective. When DUST 514 was up, 90+% of my CCP game time was in DUST.

My point is, at the end of the day, at least his money is still useful, even if nerfed.

Ours is just gone.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#15 - 2017-02-24 00:16:54 UTC
Amojin wrote:
Nothing was stolen from any of you. You paid a price, in real money. You received an object. At the creation of this object, CCP's obligation is terminated.

You should expect nerfs. Hell, most of you fly flavor of the month ships, spending gods knows how much SP to get there, and every time CCP says jump, you ask how high?

What did you expect?

the FoTM whines just got a lot spicier with skill injectors Oops

If something is that OP you go and spend 60b on it, assume other people probably will too, and don't be surprised when it gets nerfed.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Demolishar
United Aggression
#16 - 2017-02-24 00:36:58 UTC
Mail me if you want to sell your rorqual characters for a bit above extract price, I'll help you out.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#17 - 2017-02-24 00:46:27 UTC
It happens to everybody at some point, if they play long enough. Ship rebalance adjustment, rules change, loot drop tables change, whatever. "Oh well, there goes X number of ISK invested X dozens of hours invested micro-tuning some operation." It's force majeure, an unpredictable act of Bob, some statements previously relied on are now null and void. Kind of face-puncher when it's your area that got hit this time around, but you get over it. Maybe after you try out some other MMOs..... Smile
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#18 - 2017-02-24 01:10:43 UTC
I'm not going to jump on the salt bandwagon - because it really sucks being on the end of a nerf (especially when you've invested considerable time and/or RL money to finally achieve a goal). CCP has an extremely poor track record when it comes to implementing any kind of balance change...

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

MightyGuy
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2017-02-24 01:24:26 UTC  |  Edited by: MightyGuy
Yes CCP Fozzie and another one of his brilliant ideas... get people interested in mining .. making stuff ..then nerf it hard... then came back and nerf it again while screwing the panic button so hard my rorqual will fly funny for a week. Fozzie PLEASE go somewhere else and screw up someone elses game. And leave the Rorquals alone.. in your feedback thread the consensus was to leave it the way it is ... will you do that... will you actually READ the feedback and go with what we tell ya ... Or will you do what you always do and do what you want.
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#20 - 2017-02-24 01:35:08 UTC
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