EVE General Discussion

The faces and names may change, but CODE. alliance is still there. The numbers don't lie and show bot-aspirants exploding at strong and consistent rates. They also show about 90 active CODE. characters in the last 7 days, which has been around the norm for the last couple years, maybe even up a tad. People take breaks, people get banned, people move on, (even an alliance could too) but the Code itself isn't going anywhere. As for the alliance, CODE. certainly isn't going anywhere over some dispute over freighter loot, at least not as long as it is practically given to you by so many clueless and incompetent freighter pilots.

Come on, you are acting like an ISK-obsessed carebear. I know you know there are more important things in this game than virtual objects, so why would you think that could bring down an organization that explicitly rejects such dirty materialism?

Realization? With that sentence my friend, you have hit upon the exact reason the Code will never die. If everyone accepted Eve was in fact a PvP game everywhere all the time and played accordingly even in highsec, the New Order might very well be in danger of dying of boredom from a lack of targets. But if that happened, we would die happy having achieved total victory given that is the very goal of the movement as outlined in the Code. But the sad reality is the majority of highsec doesn't view the game this way and probably never will. And with every buff to highsec safety CCP just makes highsec players more complacent and more isolated from PvP, and thus fattening up another future target for us.

Don't you see how the Code always wins? Either we get to explode you, or force you to take steps to defend yourself in a PvP game. We don't care that some small-minded players define PvP as 'honouable duels at the sun' or something that only happens outside of highsec. We reject this eBushido space samurai nonsense and bring the real Eve to the part of New Eden that needs it the most: highsec, exactly as CCP has ordained us to.

I think we can both agree there is little danger of us growing bored given the reluctance of highsec players, both "PvPers" as you define them and pure industrial-minded players, to actually treat highsec as part of a competitive PvP sandbox game and not some mining or hauling screensaver you run while vacuuming the house or weeding the garden.

Indeed you are winning Eve. Now to be fair, CCP has stacked the deck so much in your favour it is pretty trivial to avoid losing anything of consequence to another player in highsec, but you are indeed winning every time you safely deliver the goods you gathered to market. In fact, the actions of the New Order and of highsec criminals contribute to you getting a better price for your goods by interdicting your competition and stimulating demand for your items.

CCP isn't blocking you from doing this. In fact, this is exactly how CCP intends for the game to work. You as a diligent industrialist are rewarded, while the lazy, greedy or clueless industrialist ends up fodder for the other players. Player-driven risk in highsec they call it.

Well, this drifted off-topic. I think enough words have be said over risk vs. reward, the New Order, the sorry state of highsec and so forth. I will say I am eager to hear the complete story of the "heist" and all the attendant fallout. Sounds like there are a few good stories to come regarding how this drama played out and the opportunities for shenanigans it created.

Miner, calm down before you break down

Don't encourage them, it only makes them believe they matter.

Sure, they exist, sure they kill some stuff, other than that they are like an embarrassing disease, people are uncomfortable mentioning them and everyone is glad when the antibiotics kick in.

And if you mention them on the forums they burst out like herpes going "LOOOK AT MEEEEEE" usually runs to about ten pages of self pleasuring, before everyone else gets bored and goes off and does something else.

lol who are you talking to?

Lies it's all lies don't believe the hype

Or indeed, 'the English sound, which deserves batter....'

Quite right, Morion, confirming that we (the English) invented the 'dog's-dinner' literary style..

And now, back to our scheduled programme..

You're clearly a veteran and observant player, Jhonas; I like to see that reflected in a post. I do have one minor gripe though:

Relevance is irrelevant, whether on the forums or in-game; Personal Fulfilment trumps Relevance every time.

YAWN. No one cares

Inb4 "Calm down, Yawner."

I thought loyalanon got permabanned awhile back?