EVE General Discussion

Hey OP, Mittens is already KOS for you. The ony problem is you'd have to leave hisec to do it, and he's not a red cross, so you probably don't know how to shoot him.

he is red cross.. everything and everyone is red cross .. in overview.. if you set it that way.

Your argument is invalid.

csm = The Mittani mostly and occasionally darius III, says stuff there... the rest ive never heard of.

Wrong : I live in the basement, I pay attention only to what I'm interested in ( wha, it's like pointing the obvious ) and the doctors won't let me out...They said they have their reasons.

Otherwise, everything's cool as long as CSM dies in pain.

CSM is the political arm of nullsec by which they gain access to information for which they can use to manipulate markets in order to achieve profit. This is all you need to know about the CSM.

If the original poster really wanted to air his or her views about the CSM to CCP, or directly to members of the CSM, then I am pretty sure they will be attending Sausage Fest errr... Fan Fest. Just look for those certain individuals that believe their virtual status equals their real life status, especially when they're gawking at themselves in a mirror.

You're the father of the CSM? You have a lot to answer for. How could you let them become so unruly?
It's about time the CSM actually did some lessons.

Edit: CSM meeting minutes 7th-9th December 2011; at the end of the minutes they talk to Hilmar... and I quote: "The CSM then concluded by asking Hilmar, 'What have you learned from this, and are there any new procedures in place to make sure that this will not happen again?' ". Not happy with the answer it goes on to say "CSM bluntly asked, by rephrasing their first question of 'what have you learned?', why Incarna was rammed through with such force when many, many signs indicated trouble on the horizon?".

Is that the right way to talk to the CEO? Talk about rude. I'm not that serious about this actually. It's only border line rude.

Finally, I'd like to ask, does the CSM have any "accountability"? They seem to be able to say/ask anything they like to/of CCP and we don't see it or how many silly ideas they come up with during these "meetings". I think they should ask everyone in Eve before saying anything at these meetings. Sheesh. They act like they were voted in to do/say what they like.

This is the 4th such topic I'll support in as many days.

Burn them with fire and bring on a pure CCP dictatorship!

+1

You all get the CSM you deserve. Sure some folks have 6K voting blocks but the is less than 2% of the subscription base.

Fact is the CSM just doesn't seem to matter (yet) to the majority of the players. Which is sad as you can look at Eve today and see that the CSM can affect the nature of Eve. Right now the CSM seems to be focused on what the majority would consider to be a small part of Eve (null, supercaps...) and that seems to be the new shiny for CCP now as well. The CSM also seem to keeping attention off a lot of things that hurt Eve like big alliance null botting, the inherent broken moon mineral monopolies and the staleness of things like mining.

I'd suggest that if the Eve player base continues to ignore the CSM that we can all expect a lot of what we'd like to see get some "luvin" from CCP ignored or even screwed up (CSM desire to remove ABC ore in WHs comes to mind). So I hope folks wake up, realize the CSM is an important part of Eve and start getting more interested in getting a set of folks with broader focus elected in the future.

So the CSM is here to stay and changes Eve in every way. Get interested and involved or be doomed!

Issler

Eh. CCP is in charge of the game. If they screw up, then they will figure it out sooner or later.