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Solo play does it exists anymore?

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#21 - 2017-02-20 19:52:23 UTC
most of the eve streams I've watched have been solo pvpers, there is a ton of solo pvp content you just have to accept that sometimes you get good fights, and sometimes you get blobbed.

as far as pve content goes almost all of it can be done solo. Mainly missing out on incursions and some high end wh stuff.

some people are overprotective and will drop often, can always try going to a different area depending on what you are trying to do.

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StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#22 - 2017-02-20 22:28:18 UTC
lady aspin wrote:
I use to have no beef with the Russians now i cant solo play any more. If i do next thing i know i have a cap or a super cap sitting on my face . I usually do not bother any one i might mess with the industrialists kill there cyno alt every now and again but i do not greaf them all the time. Every one is like do some thing about it what is one person who pves solo and pvps ever now and again suppose to do about it ? So again i ask does solo play actually exist any more? And is eve really worth playing any more for a solo player?



Youve got bigger problems than russians if you have a super cap sitting on your face.


Much Bigger.

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.

Salvos Rhoska
#23 - 2017-02-21 07:56:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Solo is entirely possible, but with the following general soft-caps:

-You will invariably be at a disadvantage against any group.
-Some content will be very difficult, or risky, alone.
-The larger and more capable your ship is at completing more difficult content, the greater the risk, exponentially.

Outside of HS, id say solo tops out in T3C, in terms of hull size.
Solo content thus tops out, as sites you can complete with a T3C.
Specifically because of cloaking and nullification.
Un/fortunately, T3Cs are ridiculously formidable ships.

I think the same goes for solo pvp.
BC/BS, will invariably get caught and destroyed by superior numbers.

Caveat: Black Ops ships may be an exception.
Yuigun Dhrull
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2017-02-21 08:13:36 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Solo is entirely possible, but with the following general soft-caps:

-You will invariably be at a disadvantage against any group.
-Some content will be very difficult, or risky, alone.
-The larger and more capable your ship is at completing more difficult content, the greater the risk, exponentially.

Outside of HS, id say solo tops out in T3C, in terms of hull size.
Solo content thus tops out, as sites you can complete with a T3C.
Specifically because of cloaking and nullification.

I think the same goes for solo pvp.
BC/BS, will invariably get caught and destroyed by superior numbers.


I would like to add to this statement in regards to BC/BS solo PVP based on my own opinion:

Getting caught and destroyed is not necessarily bad. In these times were the ISK flows in abundant streams some people in low gladly take on a gang solo in a BC/BS knowing they will die and don´t care they go down as long as they take as many as possible down with them. Other peole only care about the isk efficiency, so they don't care about loosing a BC if the ship killed more than it was worth, some people don´t care at all risking marauders where they know they will die etc etc. So solo pvp in bigger ships can be a fun challenge if you accept that you will die when you undock and see how long you live and how mny you take down with you.
ApexDynamo
Neurosurgical Reconstruction Centre
#25 - 2017-02-21 15:48:49 UTC
lady aspin wrote:
I use to have no beef with the Russians now i cant solo play any more. If i do next thing i know i have a cap or a super cap sitting on my face . I usually do not bother any one i might mess with the industrialists kill there cyno alt every now and again but i do not greaf them all the time. Every one is like do some thing about it what is one person who pves solo and pvps ever now and again suppose to do about it ? So again i ask does solo play actually exist any more? And is eve really worth playing any more for a solo player?




Go live in a wormhole you wont really have to worry about being hotdropped altho you cant exactly afk rat eathier gotta always be on your toes, ive had alts liveing in c3-c5's never once lost a carebear ship to pvpers
Keno Skir
#26 - 2017-02-21 23:15:34 UTC
Soel Reit wrote:
Keno Skir wrote:

Because it's harder and you'll end up a better pilot as a result.



being a solo player doesn't have anything to do with being a good pilot


I disagree. Fact is it's an easier game with friends, ergo it's harder without Pirate
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#27 - 2017-02-22 03:45:20 UTC
In low sec, 'solo PVP' is a pretty relative. Consider these things:
-Dual alt accounts. What may have looked like 'solo' was actually 1v1 vs. OP alt to finish you off. Not their problem, yours.
-Roaming gangs, off course.
-Gate camps, of course.
-You can be hunter-stalker. But again, 'What may have looked like 'solo' was actually 1v1 vs. OP alt to finish you off.' Kind a version of station games.
-But still many ways to be a merry trickster and have fun and make isk in low sec~! Takes some cunning and deviousness, that's all. But solo pvp-- shite all. PLEX two accounts, get in a fleet, or work it being stealthy. Not much in between.
Amojin
Doomheim
#28 - 2017-02-22 03:58:29 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Caveat: Black Ops ships may be an exception.



Only in a Pilgrim, so far as I can see.

Of course, as it stands, now, the Proteus is the default ganker, 1 on 1. Close range blasters, a massive tank... But, I am assured that's going away.

Maybe what we need to balance all of this stuff is to have logi's balanced for ANY rep system? Then people can play their races, and have a reasonable expectation of getting reps?

Just because you're Amarr does not mean, in a fleet engagement, that you would not expect some meta-gaming shield-tanked ships, and vice versa...
Cade Windstalker
#29 - 2017-02-22 04:43:42 UTC
Amojin wrote:
[quote=Salvos Rhoska]Maybe what we need to balance all of this stuff is to have logi's balanced for ANY rep system? Then people can play their races, and have a reasonable expectation of getting reps?

Just because you're Amarr does not mean, in a fleet engagement, that you would not expect some meta-gaming shield-tanked ships, and vice versa...


Shield and Armor excel at different things. Just because armor gets used more for larger fleet engagements doesn't mean that Shield doesn't see any use or that it's imbalanced in favor of one or the other.
Othran
Route One
#30 - 2017-02-22 12:55:20 UTC
Dunno about PvE but solo has always been do-able in PvP regardless of whether its null/LS/HS.

However in my case (fair old while ago) I found it quite limiting - even if you dual-box which isn't strictly speaking "solo".

You need to stop the target running & kill it. That rules out a lot of ships & skills. You can either bait or catch but ultimately you need to be both tackle and DPS.

Better off doing small gang stuff (<10) IMHO. At least there you get the chance to try different ships/roles/tactics.

YMMV of course.
lilol' me
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#31 - 2017-02-22 13:19:22 UTC  |  Edited by: lilol' me
solo play has been dead for a loooooonnnnggg time, ccp saw to that with being allowed to fit cynos on any ships, warp scrams, bubbles, gate camps, ganking, gates (people hiding behind them) thats a few things..

in order to at least help, you need 2 accounts.
You cant scout alone, you cant cyno alone, which is ridiculous that people have to pay months sub just to be able to jump a capital ship.
Holgrak Blacksmith
Prophets of Motav
#32 - 2017-02-22 14:31:40 UTC
I have played solo for a few years now - I have two young children and I need to be able to go afk at any time because one of them is fishing in the toilet or seeing how far they can lean out of the upstairs windows etc etc.

Whilst plying solo I have tried most activities in Eve, some are almost impossible, some are just too annoying to make it worth while, but industry/market trading work wonders if you like that sort of thing.

Also, it's not like you are ever truly solo in Eve, the ships you buy, taxes you pay on refining ore, and the cynos you're forcing the Russians to use on you all contribute to the economy and player experiences.

Cade Windstalker
#33 - 2017-02-22 14:32:34 UTC
lilol' me wrote:
solo play has been dead for a loooooonnnnggg time, ccp saw to that with being allowed to fit cynos on any ships, warp scrams, bubbles, gate camps, ganking, gates (people hiding behind them) thats a few things..

in order to at least help, you need 2 accounts.
You cant scout alone, you cant cyno alone, which is ridiculous that people have to pay months sub just to be able to jump a capital ship.


By this view solo play died the moment CCP allowed more than 2 combat pilots and 1 miner into the game...

None of these things make solo play 'dead' or impossible, they just make it harder to pull off successfully. That was always going to be the case though, because having friends is *always* an advantage in any game, anywhere.
Keno Skir
#34 - 2017-02-22 16:40:04 UTC
lilol' me wrote:
solo play has been dead for a loooooonnnnggg time, ccp saw to that with being allowed to fit cynos on any ships, warp scrams, bubbles, gate camps, ganking, gates (people hiding behind them) thats a few things..

in order to at least help, you need 2 accounts.
You cant scout alone, you cant cyno alone, which is ridiculous that people have to pay months sub just to be able to jump a capital ship.


Nah you're just bad at the game is all Lol You can be a scout alone, for friends. You can cyno your friends about alone or get them to cyno you, or use jump gates now with many capitals. It isn't ridiculous that very high end content requires teamwork and that some players will use multiple accounts to circumvent said necessity for teamwork.

All sounds pretty standard really.. Pirate
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2017-02-22 17:10:20 UTC
Not sure what we are talking here about ... sure, you can play solo, and a lot of stuff is easier solo (where you don't need to share, sync online times), most is reasonable with small restrictions, but some things do need other players in the party to get the maximum fun.

I'm my own NPC alt.

Jade Blackwind
#36 - 2017-02-22 17:22:06 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Solo is entirely possible, but with the following general soft-caps:

-You will invariably be at a disadvantage against any group.
-Some content will be very difficult, or risky, alone.
-The larger and more capable your ship is at completing more difficult content, the greater the risk, exponentially.

Outside of HS, id say solo tops out in T3C, in terms of hull size.
Solo content thus tops out, as sites you can complete with a T3C.
Specifically because of cloaking and nullification.
Un/fortunately, T3Cs are ridiculously formidable ships.

I think the same goes for solo pvp.
BC/BS, will invariably get caught and destroyed by superior numbers.

Caveat: Black Ops ships may be an exception.
What he says.

I lived for months solo in nullsec in a T3 until I was bored out of my mind (and joined RvB). Perfectly feasible. Goons resorted to smack talk in local because they had no other way of annoying me.

But solo in Eve has a glass ceiling - and if you go above that, you instantly turn into a fat, juicy bundle of content for other people.
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