Intergalactic Summit

Basically... yeah, some combat is okay. We are fairly unique in New Eden that we don't have anyone to protect us other than ourselves. Humanitarian organizations elsewhere can rely on legal protection or have other forms of protection ensuring that the organization itself can do nothing but humanitarian work.

We don't have that luxury. If we do anything besides staying docked, it's entirely up to us to protect those ventures, be they humanitarian or not.

Combat on its own shouldn't be a factor in whether or not a capsuleer organization qualifies as humanitarian. It's the motivations and primary focus of it that should be the prime yardstick and any combat activity on record needs to be evaluated on its own, to see if it's wanton enough to disqualify the humanitarian aspect.

And just in case someone misunderstands me, no, I have never been part of a humanitarian organization, I personally do not in any way qualify as a humanitarian worker and so on and so forth. The work I do through and for the Network, the staging center in Muttokon or the aid services for freed slaves and so on fall short of those prerequisites on several points.

Doesn't really matter. It was a pitiable display of bravado from State based groups I should be able to respect...

They systematically proved themselves beneath contempt.

Ah, the respect of jaiiji. How much we crave that.

I have never talked about hitting you, Pieter. All I've done is show right here that you and yours are very selective about who you try to suppress with violence and who you just whine and whinge about when they point out your failings and lies. Again, I am guilty of every little thing you used to justify your attack on your latest targets and we have plenty of shiny assets in space. Tell me, why are you not jumping to 'defend honor' and so on? Why is it suddenly on others to come be as low and pathetic as you and yours? Because you know you can't just silence this one with violence.

You know what would have avoided all of this? Honesty. This kind of thing happens almost every damn day in New Eden and people would barely have raised an eyebrow at it, if it hadn't been for the smarmy torrent of self-contradictory and pathetic pretense about why you did it. Just another day in New Eden, just another act of thuggery and destruction for self-aggrandizement and personal profits and people would have shrugged and moved on.

It just speaks volumes that you and yours still have to play pretend about it and then whine pitifully when called on it, and then demonstrate the hypocrisy quite clearly, that your 'honor' turns out to be worthless when you can't 'defend it' with thuggery. Not even just a coward, but a lying one. Pathetic.



I speak for no one but myself indeed and I have no influence on who or where Mercenary Coalition deploys against. Since even just undocking for a single op tends to have a price tag of quite a few billion, this largely safeguards almost every entity that is ever represented on these boards from attention simply because it's never a cost effective measure.

It is still rather telling that you and yours scrounge together, what... four or was it five different wardecs over the words of a small and harmless group and then backpedal hard and instead just whine when that's not so easily achieved. Or is your 'honor' suddenly worth quite a bit less when it is impugned by someone like me rather than an easy punching bag?

No you're not.

Why?

Are we thinking of the same thread?

Thinking about it I can see why you'd have trouble reading from the usual Minmatar engagement range of 300km. What I didn't realise is that this methodology carried across to the IGS.

I don't see any reason why capsuleer organizations should need any protection in and of themselves. If a group devoted to the protection of baseliners is incapable of defending itself then it isn't serving its purpose. Of course, I'm biased: Antumbra is founded on this principal.

Oh dear, I must have hit a nerve. An illiterate one at that, or perhaps it's just cherrypicking and willful ignorance on display. Next you'll tell me all twenty thousand goons are combat operatives or something.

What astounds me is just how many of you starts whining and whinging when called on your nonsense.

Pretending those numbers mean anything is laughable.
Sanxing had no more than 5 potentially available pilots, GMVA couldn't join the war until after the second vulnerability window because of complications, and the mercenaries Sanxing hired never showed. So that's why there was only EM at the second vulnerability window, and obviously they didn't bring all their pilots because it's impossible to field all your pilots at once unless you strictly never recruit anyone who isn't on the same shift and kick anyone who's not consistently active.
For the third vulnerability window the number of wardecs on us went from four to six. Not knowing how many pilots would be attacking, I decided it wasn't worth risking any more lives. 64, it turned out: not a force we would have had a real chance of countering.