Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I want Concord to be removed.
At least nerf them to a point you can tank and kill them.
It sucks new bros get treated like they are not capable of talking care of them selves.

Back when EVE was young (circa 2004 to 2005) the main trade hub of EVE of Yulai. The reason for this was because there used to be "superhighways" between Yulai and all the main "capital regions" of the four factions.
(NOTE: CCP removed these highways to promote more "regional markets" rather than one centralized market hub... which, from their point of view, would promote more prices differences and thus more conflict).

Around this same time, CONCORD used to be tankable. And I mean that literally. You could actually tank CONCORD.

Then an infamous "pirate corporation" by the name of MoO decided to test how tankable it was. MoO assembled their members and, fitted with remote reps, decided to camp one of the "superhighway" gates leading to Yulai.
MoO camped the gate for hours... nuking everyone and anyone who came through and tanking CONCORD at the same time.

After awhile, enough people complained that the DEVs got involved. They kindly asked MoO to stop and go elsewhere. MoO responded by giving the DEVs the finger.
So the DEVs did what anyone with godlike-server-hacks does to disobedient people in a war-soaked dystopian game; they teleported all the present members of MoO to the outer reaches of the map... separately. They all had to make their way back to high-sec alone.

Soon after... CONCORD was buffed to their current strength (see: they insta-gib offenders after a small period of time) and the "no avoidance" rule was created. But it doesn't stop there.


Fast forward to 2008-2009... CONCORD is again buffed to their current response times (5 seconds for 1.0 space, 15 seconds for 0.5 space).


Fast forward again to 2012-ish. People have now found ways to "skirt" around the "no avoidance of CONCORD" rule.
The "boomerang" tactic was where you would attack/gank someone and then warp off (provided you ganked fast enough and were already aligned). This allowed people to select two targets and gank both before succumbing to CONCORD.

While technically this trick did not violate the rule of "no avoiding CONCORD" (because CONCORD would catch up to you by the time one started the second gank) the DEVs decided that it violated the "spirit" of the rule. So they coded in a new rule that disallowed warping as soon as "illegal aggression" occurred in high-sec.


tldr; it has been a long, long time since the rule was created. But that doesn't stop people from pushing some boundaries. And the DEVs seem okay with this as long as no blatant avoidance of CONCORD retribution occurs.

There's no CONCORD outside HighSec. Looks like CCP foresaw your request and deleted CONCORD in 90% of the game preemptively. Case closed, this thread is now pointless.

Counter point op, why not expand concord.

Further why not introduce a new Corp management skill that allows for 1 system to be annointed as player owned high sec in null sec.
Level 5 would give you 5 systems. You could make it a strong for a home system enclave or spread them around territory so you have various hubs in null. Gives new players bases to operate out of who are moving between high and null and you could have an isk sink to hire contingents of concord to operate in those systems from a destroyable concord embassy style structure that can be destroyed after declaring war if you can defeat them and push them back into their high sec system.
Skill could cost like 1b from npc and have a high modifier so it's slow to train.

Each corporation could theoretically become small feudal style empires outside of major empire space. Multiple corps in an alliance could string them together would make little buffer states you have to knock through.
Or do it like certain deployables where they can't be created within x distance of another one.

My, you are both unfamiliar with Eve history and a veritable font of bad ideas aren't you?

Have a history lesson courtesy of ShahFluffers.