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If you are not a griefer and wish a better EVE, unsub now

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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#81 - 2012-01-21 10:51:47 UTC
OP - before you disappear for the 6th time, could you make a audio recording where you rage a bit over us sociopaths in EVE that plays the game for free because of PLEX.

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Ovella
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#82 - 2012-01-21 10:57:10 UTC
CeneUJiti wrote:
Well you see. EVE with its "there is no griefing" GM policies has attracted most vile and disgusting gathering of would-be sociopaths with self esteem issues ever seen in any online game.
In my expirience most of them are highsec carebears P
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#83 - 2012-01-21 10:57:32 UTC
Space is big, these forums are small.

Therefore the asshat / area ratio is significantly higher here than ingame. In fact you can go weeks or even months without running into one ingame, your lucky to catch 5 mins peace here.

My advice go play the game and avoid the asshats (read:forum)

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#84 - 2012-01-21 11:59:17 UTC
Well, that EVE is free for all to griefers is a well known feature of the game, to the point that it takes no balls, no spine, no galls, no courage to be a griefer as essentially there is nothing bad that could happen to you.

In EVE some people negate others to play and are assured by CCP that they will never be negated to play unless they bite the hand that pets them. That's the fact.

So the OP should either live with this (I did so for over three years and never unsubbed until now, for reasons unrelated to griefing) or plain unsub and never come back until she can live with it.

Of course, I dream of being allowed to make life miserable to griefers much as they do to many others, but, that won't really make me lose my sleep, to say so. Yet, if I was CCP, I would be buying a drink to anyone who had the galls to become a griefer in MY game... Twisted
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#85 - 2012-01-21 13:16:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Grumpy Owly
Roosterton wrote:

Extremist and biast BS prescribing how people should play the game. Another atypical ganker considering little in terms of how one sided the commodity of fun is controlled from the ganker side.

You can see this from the persitent need for tactics to be erroneously heaped onto the trader who have to go to lengths according to the argument both in infrastructure and skilling to be effectual. Whereas the Ganker wishes to maintain his low investment, lack of comeback or any adaptation for quick isk generation.

Which only goes further to support how much of a preference the systems are in favour of gankers.


Personally I have never been ganked, I also am aware of techniques and provsions to avoid being a pinata so don't need the condescending lecture.

Nor am I saying remove ganking as I recognise it as one valid method of playing the game and warfare tactics.

My point I'm annoyed with about Gankers is how much they are "blinkered" to how lazy and easy they have it. Yet they wish to be lablelled the cool kids. And yet the minute the industrialist suggest adding effective teeth to the process like a working bounty system or effective war deccing process (of which I equally dont like decshield) they rush to defend their corner in a cowardly attempt to avoid any reprisal. Seriously what is so "cool" about that if you will argue tooth and nail to avoid any kind of confrontation and yet you argue the game is about PvP.

This is irrespective of wether you get involved in other forms of PvP elsewhere, which at the end of the day is a level playing field for everyone as far as picking and choosing how you fight. At least then you are hopefully fit and equipped for the job to answer any comeback. However from experience I see numerous nefarious characters "hopping" around between player and npc corps as it suits them to avoid confrontation.

I can't wait for the day when a proper policing system is implemented and an effective bounty process is finally in place. Have you thought how long its been that this simple needed broken system has allowed you to operate so freely. Then at least some kind of retribution can be attempted for criminal activity, whereas at present in EvE it caters to the whims of the criminal.

So stay the cowardly hypocrite if you think that is "kewl". Or maybe its just fail pilots who need a soft target to get anything on their Kill board that need to do this, who knows?

(And as to the call for people who might want to do a bit of hauling or industrial piloting to simply leave the game. Logically this would leave gankers with nothing to do in the main so its a self defeating statement not to mention yet another one sided approach of how EvE "SHOULD" be played. Which simply re-itterates how narrow minded the view is and goes further to support my point. Not to mention how much it doesnt help CCPs buisness model and the potential success of EvE)

So my answer is simple, the systems can be changed to allow for more confrontation, PvP, challenge, fun and excitement for all concerned rather than it being a "fish in a barrel" process that some should just shrug off simply to maintain the fun and benefit of only the Gankers.
Bischopt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#86 - 2012-01-21 13:37:49 UTC
CeneUJiti wrote:
stuff


so mad.

OP manages to combine a lot of bullshit in one post. well done.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2012-01-21 13:43:41 UTC
I don't get this.

you complain about people blowing ships up in a game that is driven about people blowing ships up...

...?


wait, let me get that straight...


a complain about blowing ships up in a game that is about blowing ships up.






































honestly, something does not compute here. Straight

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Fabio Killer
Doomheim
#88 - 2012-01-21 13:52:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Fabio Killer
CeneUJiti wrote:


EVE is fine game, but among its players are most of the worst human beings you can possibly encounter on internet



As much as I enjoy EVE, I must agree with this point. A huge majority of EVE players are, by all human standards, utter filth.

Personally, I took great satisfaction in not hiring someone who was technically qualified just because during the interview he mentioned, while talking about hobbies, that he was a veteran EVE player. If you play EVE, there's a better than even chance that you are scum: try not to mention that to a potential employer.

(edited for grammar)
Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#89 - 2012-01-21 13:56:09 UTC
Incursions were never meant to be farmed on the mothership for hours or days. Stop crying that people are finishing them as their supposed to be finished.

Why dont all the incursion bears get together and hire mercs to dec the griefing corp or adjust their stratergies so their not so vulnerable. Only fly with logi they trust etc.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#90 - 2012-01-21 14:16:29 UTC
Fabio Killer wrote:
CeneUJiti wrote:


EVE is fine game, but among its players are most of the worst human beings you can possibly encounter on internet



As much as I enjoy EVE, I must agree with this point. A huge majority of EVE players are, by all human standards, utter filth.

Personally, I took great satisfaction in not hiring someone who was technically qualified just because during the interview he mentioned, while talking about hobbies, that he was a veteran EVE player. If you play EVE, there's a better than even chance that you are scum: try not to mention that to a potential employer.

(edited for grammar)


Wow, you're an idiot.
Fabio Killer
Doomheim
#91 - 2012-01-21 14:20:18 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:


Wow, you're an idiot.


Not as much as someone who admits he's scum during a job interview.
Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#92 - 2012-01-21 14:37:26 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Fabio Killer wrote:
CeneUJiti wrote:


EVE is fine game, but among its players are most of the worst human beings you can possibly encounter on internet



As much as I enjoy EVE, I must agree with this point. A huge majority of EVE players are, by all human standards, utter filth.

Personally, I took great satisfaction in not hiring someone who was technically qualified just because during the interview he mentioned, while talking about hobbies, that he was a veteran EVE player. If you play EVE, there's a better than even chance that you are scum: try not to mention that to a potential employer.

(edited for grammar)


Wow, you're an idiot.

hook, line, sinker Roll
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#93 - 2012-01-21 14:39:30 UTC
CeneUJiti wrote:
Well you see. EVE with its "there is no griefing" GM policies has attracted most vile and disgusting gathering of would-be sociopaths with self esteem issues ever seen in any online game.


Yes, it has. And I love each and every one of them. Beautiful minds they are.
Gabriel Mangeiri
Doomheim
#94 - 2012-01-21 14:39:43 UTC
Fabio Killer wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:


Wow, you're an idiot.


Not as much as someone who admits he's scum during a job interview.


So because everyone who plays Eve is so mean to you, you'll commit a federal offense and open yourself to being sued.

Yeah, you're totally not an idiot man. Totally.

_"Eve players are most definitely the "Jocks" of the metaphorical high-school that is the MMO landscape." _— Jerhboa

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#95 - 2012-01-21 14:42:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Gabriel Mangeiri wrote:
Fabio Killer wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:


Wow, you're an idiot.


Not as much as someone who admits he's scum during a job interview.


So because everyone who plays Eve is so mean to you, you'll commit a federal offense and open yourself to being sued.

Yeah, you're totally not an idiot man. Totally.


reality is beautiful .. all those laws bullshit nonsense .. imaginary rights, economy, prejudice, jurisdiction created only to herd masses like sheep..

who is an idot then ? the one who blindly follow or the one who act on their own.

*edit .. taken out of context.. *
Sun'Mar Raholan
Doomheim
#96 - 2012-01-21 14:46:08 UTC
If your not coming back,can i have your stuff?
Fabio Killer
Doomheim
#97 - 2012-01-21 14:48:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Fabio Killer
Gabriel Mangeiri wrote:

you'll commit a federal offense and open yourself to being sued.



Newsflash: not everyone is an American. There are things called "other countries" where a lot of people live. And, believe it or not, they may have different employment/hiring rules. Amazing, innit?

Edit - it's not a matter of being mean. I generally manage to stay out of trouble, and in fact in a few years I was ganked only twice, and both times because I was stupid. If you can't tell the difference between "being mean to me" and "being utter scum" then I think we are in disagreement over the meaning of the term "idiot" and whom it applies to
Mag's
Azn Empire
#98 - 2012-01-21 14:53:36 UTC
CeneUJiti wrote:
"why do I pay money to CCP to provide game for legions of arrogant sick fucks". And "EVE is fine game, but among its players are most of the worst human beings you can possibly encounter on internet".
Awesome OP, but that line was particularly excellent. Lol

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Gabriel Mangeiri
Doomheim
#99 - 2012-01-21 14:55:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Gabriel Mangeiri
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
reality is beautiful .. all those laws bullshit nonsense .. imaginary rights, prejudice, jurisdiction created only to herd masses like sheep..

who is an idot then ? the one who blindly follow or the one who act on their own.


The ones who defy said laws and then confess on a public forum. You may think it's cool to be a rebel, but when you're talking about a crime you've committed to thousands of other people, it doesn't make you smart. It makes you a ******* moron.

This is, of course, ignoring the simple fact his actions are logically fallacious. He's guilty of a few fallacies, in fact. Ad ignorantiam, false continuum, inconsistency, slippery slope, tu quoque.

_"Eve players are most definitely the "Jocks" of the metaphorical high-school that is the MMO landscape." _— Jerhboa

Fabio Killer
Doomheim
#100 - 2012-01-21 14:59:41 UTC
Gabriel Mangeiri wrote:


The ones who defy said laws and then confess on a public forum.



Well then, I'll wait for the Marines to come over and export some civilisation over here, so they can enforce these laws you speak of.

BTW, honest question to the rest of the forum - is there really a law (and a federal one, at that) in America about what reasons a private employer is allowed to have to hire or not a candidate?

And you are terrified of Europeans because they're socialists? Bloody hell.