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CSM, Monthly Economic Reports and removing regional stats.

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Faith Winters
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2017-02-10 05:46:27 UTC
https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/monthly-economic-report-january-2017/

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Please note that this MER is the last one containing regional stats, the next MERs will be more streamlined and not showing those graphs. This was a request by the CSM.


1. I strongly oppose this idea. CCP, we love those charts, graphs and especially regional stats. Please, do not remove it.

2. Was it even discussed in public before? Why was this decision made in secret?

3. CSM, why would you ask for this?
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#2 - 2017-02-10 07:53:27 UTC
Is it important? If so, why?

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#3 - 2017-02-10 08:12:48 UTC
OP is in PH and should ask his PL overlords in CSM about why they were in fawor.
Jintaan mentioned that "none of the CSM had any reasonable objections to it.".

Free intel for us that don't have access to vast API libraries.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Xandr Che Balilla
Excoriate Fascist Tyranny
#4 - 2017-02-21 16:06:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Xandr Che Balilla
Citizens,

Many of us remember when a single alliance nearly completely dominated our galaxy. Undisputed they reigned, until infighting finally broke their grasp! How can hegemony like this be positive for the collective?! CCP! how can this kind of imbalance be good for the game at large!

And present evidence ... that THEY wish to suppress, suggests an onslaught orders of magnitude beyond that which as come before is now in the making. The idle minds at the CSM ask US for a reason why they should resist, FOOLS! Publishing the MER in detail allows rivals a fighting chance to bring the hope of BALANCE to the universe and PREVENT the crushing tyranny of a single TWISTED oligarchy!!

If CCP is truly interested in removing the sanctity of invulnerable low sec and null sec stations, then game balance is even more vital. IMPOSE a simple yet easily reasonable rule on corporations: the bigger you are, the more we see. DEMAND TRANSPARENCY for each corporation that controls %5 or more of galactic wealth! Only then can the specter of massive wealth concentration be broken - EVE has won accolades for its substantially better than IRL wealth distribution (https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/5b4j5l/wealth_distribution_in_eve_online), this ATTRACTS followers! And the MER can enable exactly this.

Greed, tyranny, and in groups, fascism ... these are the hideous failings of the infantile human psyche. Ugly warts on the face of humanity! They MUST be controlled! We should even promote SYSTEM LEVEL stats for those corps which have run amok! The more you control, the more transparent your operations. BRING BALANCE once again TO OUR UNIVERSE!!
Cade Windstalker
#5 - 2017-02-21 16:43:33 UTC
Faith Winters wrote:
1. I strongly oppose this idea. CCP, we love those charts, graphs and especially regional stats. Please, do not remove it.

2. Was it even discussed in public before? Why was this decision made in secret?

3. CSM, why would you ask for this?


1. I would point out that the charts and graphs aren't going away, just the detailed regional stats. With regions commonly being held by a single entity or small group of entities I can certainly see the argument that this provides too much free economic intel on a group.

2. Nope, see 3.

3. Apparently they didn't, I would assume someone at CCP either found a way to abuse the data or this was in response to player concerns.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2017-02-21 16:48:23 UTC
As i wrote in another thread about this topic:
- on one hand people 'love the graphs', "it's interesting", etc...
- on other hand people who does business in these 0.0 regions and they might not want to have their stats publicly available.

I guess latter group opinion is more important than former?

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#7 - 2017-02-21 17:22:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#8 - 2017-02-21 17:31:11 UTC
Please post any feedback you have to the Monthly Economic report changes Here in its designated thread : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=510695&find=unread

ISD Max Trix

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