Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This is a re-post on a previous idea that another user have made. ( older post have been locked due to inactivity and i find it an amazing idea hence why i re-open this )

Current state of skill training we may refer it as Passive , as it doesn't require you to do anything except put it in your skill queue and Wait. implants can improve this but it's not much...

Active Skills Training. See it as a Active shield hardener , it is still passive giving you the normal skill training rate when you don't use it , if you do activities affecting this skill it would switch to Active , skilling depending on your activity you are doing. ( passive time still remain it doesn't go away , just eat chunks of that time when you successfully complete a task )

example:
Kernite Processing V , my current skill is lvl 3 , to get the bonus time reduction on this skill would require me to do 2 actions..
A) go out there in a belt and mine some Kernite then go back to the station and Refine it ( the more you refine the more you get rewarded )
B) buy kernite off the market / contract and refine it ( the more you refine the more you get rewarded )
since this skill is a reprocess mining the kernite wouldnt put that skill in active state , it will only be active when you reprocess those kernite.

Also there is some condition for this skill to get affected. The current skill you want to be active NEEDs to be in your current skill queue. skills not in your skill queue won't be affected.

So let's say in my skill queue i have Scordite Processing III and Kernite Processing V while not in my skill queue i have Veldspar Processing IV and Pyroxeres Processing II , i got out there and mine some veldspar / pyroxeres , kernite , scordite...

When reprocessing those ores Only Scordite Processing and Kernite Processing will receive the bonus since they are in my skill queue.

Same idea with the drone training / missiles / shield / armor / Electonic skills and many other skills can be set to Active that way.

For exploit purpose ( old post was flamed on and called exploit cause the idea was based on MISSILES which the exploit mentioned was " get a buddy in a tank and fire missile on him all day " )

Make it that it only work in PvE.

Please keep the reply constructive , if you disagree with this idea it is totally fine but make a constructive post saying Why you disagree, If you agree with it and would like to change or throw in some new ideas please do so i will add them.

One of the great features of this game is that it caters to the casual player by allowing them to train even while they're offline, there's no grind for skills, which a lot of players enjoy. EVE used to have some sort of active skill point earning I believe during beta and it was removed, CCP obviously thought it was a bad idea since it's easily farmed.

And why would it only be for PVE?

I mentioned PvE so that it may seems less like an Exploit for the missiles / other skills related to PVP that may be exploited.
I ain't against having skills active lvling while PVP'ing.

Here we go again

What you propose WAS in-game.

It was exploited to hell and back.

It was removed.

Its not coming back.

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What, don't you do that already?

I have trouble to understand the reasoning behind your feedback guys..

It's like you are saying " i don't want to get rewarded for playing / doing activity "
you are saying you prefer to put a skill on queues , and come back few days later when it's over and put another skill in and repeat.... someone mentioned " you won't know how to fly a ship with an active skill system " , well how you learn one if you don't play ?

This isn't taking away the passive skill we currently have so go offline if you want it's fine.

This is to reward people who are actually you know ... Playing the game activly ? on a daily basis ? enjoying eve for what it is.

to sums up , when active it could take into effect the implant you have , when passive it's the normal rate of the implant , when active it double the implant for that skill .. max +10.

I have NO idea how the "active" skill was during BETA ... was it 100% on activity and no passive ? if it was yeah i can agree it would be bad.. , this is not the case tho.

You are already capable of grinding in EVE since that's apparently what you want, you just do it for ISK and not skillpoints.


I don't think you understand how this works. If there is a way to accelerate SP gain, people WILL find a way to maximize SP/hour, and then it becomes a grind.

I like being able to log in and do whatever I please however i please without worrying that I will be gimping myself in the future by not grinding SP.




The reward one gets for playing EVE is playing a fun videogame about internet spaceships. Why is this not sufficient?

As an example:

tell me how you would design the active SP system that would both give people bonus SP for engaging in PVP, while simultaneously not allowing them to just kill their alt repeatedly for easy skill grinding.

+1 for faster skill training.

Get +5 implants, respec your attributes, sorted.

If this idea was ever implementsd I would certainly leave and I would imagine so would a good number of other players. I've played other games that let you grind skills and it was utterly banal beyond belief. EVE lets you get on with more important stuff than advancing your skills through repetitive actions. If you can't find anything more fun to do in this game than that then you're missing out on a lot of good stuff.

As mentioned, it was originally implemented during beta, as I recall, and was then removed as it was exploited to death, as it is in most games with such a system. Good riddance. The skill training system has worked for nearly 10 years now, it does not need to go backwards with this kind of change.