Intergalactic Summit

At no point have I even pretended that I am operating under Hard Knock's direction or interest.

Don't be dumb.

Yo, it's quite simple.
A message was sent. We stick out for our mates, both current and former. **** with one of us and there we go. We looked at opportunities and this one basically presented itself on a silver platter - only a fool wouldn't have taken it. I'm sure there's some more politics attached to all of this but personally speaking? I don't care a bit about that. Having someone's back, that's what counts.
If that's an alien concept open your eyes and look over New Eden, it's happening all over the bloody place. A lot of trouble can be avoided by staying god damn civil.

You know what, you're right. I've just trawled my records and there's no sign of any FDU affiliation besides the very occaisional mention in league with GMVA. I retract that comment without reservation. I must have been thinking of Aedre.

I would be extremely interested in knowing where exactly you learned the details of the ultimatum that was, as far as I-RED was concerned, confidential and to be kept between the involved parties.

I would also like to make it very clear to everyone that only myself and Executor Hinkelmann are the only ones speaking on behalf of I-RED.

Apologies. The circumstances leading up to his situation are fairly tangled and it is challenging to remember what is classified and what is public. I will withdraw from this discussion, since I have no wish to accidentally betray any mroe confidences, nor attempt to defend myself with half the truth.

I believe that means you owe us all official public release with explanation. I don't know how it goes in the Federation, but in the State if you gave a word (a promise, or a threat), you must follow it.

This discourse is growing even more pointless. Certain elements here a very vocal in Sanxings defence and are casting aspersions on the character of some of Sanxings adversaries.

The following is my personal view:

Reflecting on my own experience from a time outside of MITG/MCF1B I recall a situation I experienced in another Corporation. A theif had infiltrated the Corporation and cleared out most of the groups communal assets over 20 Billion ISK all told and had destroyed some of the Corporations infrastructure on the way out. The CEO and XO were devastated and reassured the members that things would be ok and that time would be needed to repair our fortunes. Morale initially was hit hard, if one of us could do this how many other members could be trusted? The members and officers however banded together despite leaderships protests that they should be the ones to shoulder responsibility and donated extra time, personal assets and ISK directly back into the Corporation that had looked after them so well in the past. Our allies expressed their sympathies and provided logistical aid where possible. All of this was whilst being enlisted in the TLF, having to prosecute a war and living in Low Security space. The Corporation pulled together under solid leadership, genuine loyalty from members, a positive attitude and ultimately became the most powerful TLF enlisted Corporation for a time.

This situation in contrast, was a CONCORD sanctioned attack where Sanxings adversaries engaged them over the course of a week without duplicity. Sanxing had the mandatory grace period before hostilities commenced to make what preparations it could. One small Citadel (which may have been donated to Sanxing in the first place) and some other minor in space assets were destroyed totalling a fraction of the damage my old corporation suffered due to internal sabotage. If Sanxing could not recover from this up front engagement and its allies besides the Minmatar (who I beleive suffered more ISK losses than Sanxing) would not come to their military aid over the course of a week or financial/leadership aid subsequently then perhaps you should focus on what exactly the virtues of this Corporation are you are so vehemently defending here, where words are cheap and your physical actions in its defence are sorely lacking.

Say what you want about MITG or others. We stand up for our members, our leaders and our associates in good standing. The level of support for Sanxing here on the IGS compared to the practical help they received or are receiving is appalling. Likewise the military action taken can not be portrayed as anything other than a minor inconvenience to a Corporation led well, with loyal members and the support of allies and friends. Especially as you know from our official statement that MITG are happy to regard hostilities as ceased.

Consider the above carefully and ask are you a sort of friend like MITG or I-RED or Electus Matari? Or are you simply some moralising bystander willing to give every support to your friends short of actually helping.

Once again this is my personal view and I do not presume to speak for any other entity.

We wouldn't mind rebuilding, but there is no reason to. Our most important objectives were already accomplished months ago. We could continue slowly building up Lirsautton, but we will never have any stronger footing than we had during this conflict - that's not a complaint, just an observation of the facts that there isn't an unlimited number of possible capsuleer allies for a small Federation-loyal humanitarian organization and there are really few possible capsuleer recruits for such an organization. We could continue patrolling the Ysiette constellation, but we aren't egotistical enough to believe other local capsuleers won't keep a lid on Serpentis and rogue drone activity in the area. Basically, Sanxing's existence as an interstellar entity is redundant to requirements. And because of unrelated circumstances, Xun Yu has to focus on planetside matters, which leaves me with the theoretical leadership of Sanxing and this decision.

Personally I just want to chime in and say a corporation only becomes surplus to requirements when you let it be. The best corporations adapt and overcome when trouble hits. They switch focus, come up with new ideas or walk a new path. They don't just keel over and die.

I think of when a corporation I helped found lost well in excess of 40b in assets from a patient thief. It was embarrassing and quite a hard blow. That corporation is still here. I also think of another corporation I was a part of that lost all of its space after considerable investment into reaction tower networks by the line members. That corporation is also still here.

One doesn't gain respect or satisfaction by achieving one or two big things then trumpeting about it before bowing out at the right time. One gains them through the sweat of the brow bullying through hard times and, much like tempered steel beaten out and blasted in a furnace, coming out stronger.

It varies.
What it means when we describe Sanxing as a humanitarian organization:
Sanxing was created specifically to administer humanitarian aid to the population of the Jin-Mei homeplanet. The aid came from numerous parties through the Villore Assembly - the job of Sanxing was to disburse it. When the relief effort contributed to the Jin-Mei civil war reaching a ceasefire, our new jobs were to help rebuild and to facilitate peace negotiations. The rebuilding hasn't really depended on interstellar support for a little while now, and our facilitations are well in place, so we turned our capsuleer activity to nurturing the prosperity and security of Lirsautton, Ysiette, and the wider Federation when possible. All the while, our internal policies were designed to prioritize baseliner lives and concerns.

It was never for its own sake that Sanxing existed.