EVE General Discussion

Much as I prefer w-space. And I regularly joke about the chaos that removing local would cause. Actually removing local woulf take away one of the few things that makes life in wormholes unique. Variety in types of space and the different play styles that it offers is what makes the game fun, and allows different players to find areas that they prefer operating in.

Local is a phenomenal tool for Intel gathering. I'm firmly against any changes to it, Pirates entering a system are just what I'm looking for, and knowing how many Blues are in system versus neutrals and reds is essential when moving fleets through null.

So I see why you're complaining, but this is a tool everybody can use, not just a resource for avoiding pirates.

This has been discussed ad infinitum for half a decade now. Just flat removing local isn't a good idea, it removes the ability for players to control space they own and if you can't do that then what's the point? Based on comments CCP has made on some of the new structures and around the whole "remove local/no don't" issue it seems like any changes to local as an intel mechanic would coincide with the addition of additional intel mechanics and tools to effectively replace it.

Except for a few little changes, I think your idea is on the right track..

High Sec and Low Sec are controlled by the Empires so those systems would have local channel showing everyone in system.

Null Sec Sov systems would have limited local. All members of the Alliance holding Sovereignty in those systems would be cloaked. All other players would show up in local channels.

Factional Warfare systems would also have limited local. All members of the Faction controlling those systems would be cloaked. All other players would show up in local.

W-space systems would remain the same with no local.


DMC

I really hate it, it's such an anti-fun and game breaking mechanic, some people even quit eve because of this.
And no I'm not joking.

I am not opposed to the idea to remove/delay local in a similar fashion to how it works in wormholes - at least from a gameplay perspective. However, you can't really claim that it doesn't make sense. Almost every system in known space belongs to somebody, be it a player alliance or an NPC faction. Why would the owner of a system not know who entered their space, be it through the gates or by lighting a bright signal torch that can be seen from everywhere in the system? And knowing who enters or leaves the system, why would they not be able to broadcast it system wide. The only exception I could see would be covert cyno jumps, although even in that case I would assume that the systems infrastructure would be able to pick up some sort of jump drive signature at least.

No, it's not "realistic", as it would require FTL communication, which is a thing that cannot exist as far as we know. However if we wanted to follow this logic, we'd have to remove FTL travel and delay probing and directional scanning as well as any communication in the game depending on the distance. Eve would be a rather tedious game if it was realistic. Just imagine - sublight travel, freefall mechanics, even the gun recoil would matter. Firing the broadside of a Naglfar would send it into a spin, and as funny as that would be, I think the novelty would wear off quickly.

Don't look for realism in an online spaceship game, is what I'm trying to say.

Stargates log people coming in and going out. Therefore Local.

Wormholes have no stargates. Therefore no local.

That logic is flawed. If that was true, coming into a system through a wormhole would result in not showing up in local.

triggered.

The Constellation channel is a thing too.

I'd be interested in seeing that become the nullsec default.