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Code got robbed? Can anybody confirm this?

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Salvos Rhoska
#41 - 2017-02-18 12:00:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Alderson Point wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
500B is not much. Hardly a 'bigger plan'...lol
This isn't the first time this sort of thing has occurred. Won't be the last.

It's over 500-billion ISK. Probably more like 600 to 700-billion ISK - not including the 30k Catalysts which would put it well over 1-trillion ISK. Yes, not that much. Only a minimum 2-year setback, fail-cascade and implosion of CODE. Just a scratch...



Poor dears, either they got royally screwed over, or it is an attempt to create some excitement in an atempt to appear important and still? relevant.P

Either way the majority of the playerbase will still look at them with humourous contempt.

Not particularly a good result either way.Blink



Could be its an attempt to form a daughter CODE based on the stolen assets and the 30k Catalysts.

Whilst the remaining assets/isk of mother CODE itself, are liquidated, laundered and moved onto something else.

The typical goal of any racket/mafia, is to eventually earn enough through their activities so as to legitimize itself.
Alderson Point
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2017-02-18 13:35:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Alderson Point
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Alderson Point wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
500B is not much. Hardly a 'bigger plan'...lol
This isn't the first time this sort of thing has occurred. Won't be the last.

It's over 500-billion ISK. Probably more like 600 to 700-billion ISK - not including the 30k Catalysts which would put it well over 1-trillion ISK. Yes, not that much. Only a minimum 2-year setback, fail-cascade and implosion of CODE. Just a scratch...



Poor dears, either they got royally screwed over, or it is an attempt to create some excitement in an atempt to appear important and still? relevant.P

Either way the majority of the playerbase will still look at them with humourous contempt.

Not particularly a good result either way.Blink



Could be its an attempt to form a daughter CODE based on the stolen assets and the 30k Catalysts.

Whilst the remaining assets/isk of mother CODE itself, are liquidated, laundered and moved onto something else.

The typical goal of any racket/mafia, is to eventually earn enough through their activities so as to legitimize itself.



Anything is possible, however what is not is that people will regard the new code.... with anything less than contempt and ridicule.

But leave the poor dears their illusions, after all, self delusion is the best delusion.



Of course, it could just be a move to explain to their members, why they aren't getting a share of the spoils, "oh dear, we were going to give you a share, but a bad person took it all, sorry" (giggle, suckers)Lol

But surely their own leaders would not treat their own members with contempt and .....oh!

But hey! Code.dot.dot.dot.dot.dot always wins, three cheers for code.dot etc. (Are we respected yet?) 😂
Salvos Rhoska
#43 - 2017-02-18 13:51:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Alderson Point wrote:
Anything is possible, however what is not is that people will regard the new code.... with anything less than contempt and ridicule.

But self delusion is the best delusion.

Until the bubble bursts.


My point being that Kusion has the assets now to run a daughter CODE, almost indefinitely.

Meanwhile, the remainder of mother CODE can invest its remaining assets into something else entirely.
Could be anything. Perhaps they found a market niche they can dominate, perhaps the operators want to become bankers/investors.

I see this as a false flag ops to provide an excuse for shutting down CODE as it is, so as to cash out.
Meanwhile the "stolen" assets are ideal and sufficient (especially the Catalysts) for maintaining a daughter CODE in its place, which again will accumulate wealth, and again be liquidated/laundered etc.
Alderson Point
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2017-02-18 13:57:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Alderson Point
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Alderson Point wrote:
Anything is possible, however what is not is that people will regard the new code.... with anything less than contempt and ridicule.

But self delusion is the best delusion.

Until the bubble bursts.


My point being that Kusion has the assets now to run a daughter CODE, almost indefinitely.

Meanwhile, the remainder of mother CODE can invest its remaining assets into something else entirely.
Could be anything. Perhaps they found a market niche they can dominate, perhaps the operators want to become bankers/investors.


Of course, that may be the case, and nothing to do with stripping all of the assets out and leaving the members hung out to dry, of course a "favoured few" will be invited into this new code.dot.dot.dot.dot wonderland, leaving the "socially challenged" behind to wither and die, and a new clean Code.dot.dot.dot.dot rises like a pheonix.

Somehow a turd hatching out into bird of paradise is more likely than this working.

I mean the calm, reasonable, well balanced, code playerbase is naturally going to treat this in a calm and considered manner and not going to get upset in the slightest, I Mean, they embrace this side of eve and are going to say, "well done chaps! Good play, super show, you did us up like a kipper!" Roll

Or possibly they might react as we might ACTUALLY expect. Something like whipping a rotweiler in his man potatoes with a wet towel.

Or maybe they really are that stupid? Who knows or really cares, Most fail to be surprised at their "antics" any more.
Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#45 - 2017-02-18 14:05:23 UTC
Zoubidah Al-Kouffarde wrote:
Fake drama as 500b is mere peanuts for any decent-sized organization, all the more if it does its money ganking, which is a very much profitable activity.



Yeah... This feels like the typical "Pay Attention To Me!" thing we get on the forums, anytime the blog site has a less than stellar "tears" total for a given week.

(Real "tears", not drama-alt-post "rage")

I keep maintaining that there's better drama without faking your own, fellas.
Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#46 - 2017-02-18 14:10:40 UTC
Alderson Point wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Alderson Point wrote:
Anything is possible, however what is not is that people will regard the new code.... with anything less than contempt and ridicule.

But self delusion is the best delusion.

Until the bubble bursts.


My point being that Kusion has the assets now to run a daughter CODE, almost indefinitely.

Meanwhile, the remainder of mother CODE can invest its remaining assets into something else entirely.
Could be anything. Perhaps they found a market niche they can dominate, perhaps the operators want to become bankers/investors.


Of course, that may be the case, and nothing to do with stripping all of the assets out and leaving the members hung out to dry, of course a "favoured few" will be invited into this new code.dot.dot.dot.dot wonderland, leaving the "socially challenged" behind to wither and die, and a new clean Code.dot.dot.dot.dot rises like a pheonix.

Somehow a turd hatching out into bird of paradise is more likely than this working.

I mean the calm, reasonable, well balanced, code playerbase is naturally going to treat this in a calm and considered manner and not going to get upset in the slightest, I Mean, they embrace this side of eve and are going to say, "well done chaps! Good play, super show, you did us up like a kipper!" Roll

Or possibly they might react as we might ACTUALLY expect. Something like whipping a rotweiler in his man potatoes with a wet towel.



You sure are in a hurry to tell everyone how irrelevant this corp you're posting non-stop about is, Alderson.


Anyways, yeah. This rumour smells an awful lot like a pre-quel to some epic yarn on the website. "They said CODE was dead part one"
Torin Corax
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2017-02-18 14:13:53 UTC
So, can someone confirm there are going to be some cheap cats on the market sometime soon?

Corp theft happens. No big deal.

Very much doubt that any "serious" member of CODE. is going to give much of a damn about this. Still plenty of stuff to gank, still plenty of people willing to gank. Still plenty of people willing to whine about being ganked.

Alderson Point
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2017-02-18 14:14:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Alderson Point
Clockwork Robot wrote:
Alderson Point wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Alderson Point wrote:
Anything is possible, however what is not is that people will regard the new code.... with anything less than contempt and ridicule.

But self delusion is the best delusion.

Until the bubble bursts.


My point being that Kusion has the assets now to run a daughter CODE, almost indefinitely.

Meanwhile, the remainder of mother CODE can invest its remaining assets into something else entirely.
Could be anything. Perhaps they found a market niche they can dominate, perhaps the operators want to become bankers/investors.


Of course, that may be the case, and nothing to do with stripping all of the assets out and leaving the members hung out to dry, of course a "favoured few" will be invited into this new code.dot.dot.dot.dot wonderland, leaving the "socially challenged" behind to wither and die, and a new clean Code.dot.dot.dot.dot rises like a pheonix.

Somehow a turd hatching out into bird of paradise is more likely than this working.

I mean the calm, reasonable, well balanced, code playerbase is naturally going to treat this in a calm and considered manner and not going to get upset in the slightest, I Mean, they embrace this side of eve and are going to say, "well done chaps! Good play, super show, you did us up like a kipper!" Roll

Or possibly they might react as we might ACTUALLY expect. Something like whipping a rotweiler in his man potatoes with a wet towel.



You sure are in a hurry to tell everyone how irrelevant this corp you're posting non-stop about is, Alderson.


Anyways, yeah. This rumour smells an awful lot like a pre-quel to some epic yarn on the website. "They said CODE was dead part one"



Yeah, it is nice to see code. Undergoing some disruption for whatever reason, a grand member ripoff? Drama lama for it's own sake? Look at me I'm relevant? All may apply, the leadership stripping the hell out of the members and keeping all the lootz is the funniest scenario though. (Bad person took all the moneyz , sorry, go gank some more ( ~~ sucker~~), lol) it is hard to see how they spin that in a positive way, but whatever.
Salvos Rhoska
#49 - 2017-02-18 14:23:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Alderson Point wrote:
Of course, that may be the case, and nothing to do with stripping all of the assets out and leaving the members hung out to dry, of course a "favoured few" will be invited into this new code.dot.dot.dot.dot wonderland, leaving the "socially challenged" behind to wither and die, and a new clean Code.dot.dot.dot.dot rises like a pheonix. .


The "members" never had ownership or control.
Sycophantic idiots, giddily riding the wave, with no real ownership or control, gave over their assets/profits to the org.
Now the org is cashing out. Yes, leaving them high and dry.

But dont panic! 5-700 bil was stolen, and 30k Catalysts!
CODE will endure, but under new leadership!

Kusion is the new Savior of EVE, whilst James315 becomes a banker/investor/whatever with the rest!
Alderson Point
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2017-02-18 14:25:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Alderson Point
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Alderson Point wrote:
Of course, that may be the case, and nothing to do with stripping all of the assets out and leaving the members hung out to dry, of course a "favoured few" will be invited into this new code.dot.dot.dot.dot wonderland, leaving the "socially challenged" behind to wither and die, and a new clean Code.dot.dot.dot.dot rises like a pheonix. .


The "members" never had ownership or control.
Sycophantic idiots, giddily riding the wave, with no real ownership or control, gave over their assets/profits to the org.
Now the org is cashing out. Yes, leaving them high and dry.

But dont panic! 5-700 bil was stolen, and 30k Catalysts!
CODE will endure, but under new leadership!

Kusion is the new Savior of EVE, whilst James315 becomes a banker/investor/whatever with the rest!


Hmm sounds more like an enema.

I wonder if they realise?
Salvos Rhoska
#51 - 2017-02-18 14:31:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Torin Corax wrote:
Very much doubt that any "serious" member of CODE. is going to give much of a damn about this. Still plenty of stuff to gank, still plenty of people willing to gank. Still plenty of people willing to whine about being ganked.


CODE is, and was, a ruse to exploit its "members", specifically.
CODE just set a dogma, under central control, to which adherents donated.
"Members" acted in the name of CODE, though they arent CODE, and then gave CODE their assets/profits.

CODE "members" have been screwed.
Which makes the CODE concept twice as hilarious, successful, and eminently EVE.

Did you idiots think CODE cares about you?
CODE is cashing out, and you arent getting a single isk for it.
000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
#52 - 2017-02-18 14:32:15 UTC
Whats code? Lol

I've seen so many (in)famous corps/alliances come and go ... Eve is like life, nothing lasts forever.

On another note *puts on tinfoil hat* there are times i suspect CCP from secretly messing with large corps/alliances. For what purpose? Hell do i know, i only know that at some point or another, when a corp/alliance gets too big or too well known, something happens to them and they croak and die. What?
Salvos Rhoska
#53 - 2017-02-18 14:42:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
000Hunter000 wrote:
Whats code? Lol

I've seen so many (in)famous corps/alliances come and go ... Eve is like life, nothing lasts forever.

On another note *puts on tinfoil hat* there are times i suspect CCP from secretly messing with large corps/alliances. For what purpose? Hell do i know, i only know that at some point or another, when a corp/alliance gets too big or too well known, something happens to them and they croak and die. What?


CODE is/was like the Westboro Church.

Westboro Church, despite its international widespread notoriety, actually only has about 40 registered members.
Its puny. Puny even compared to the member count of many corps in a maligned, evil online spaceship game from Iceland.

Actual CODE membership, let alone control of CODE assets, is even smaller.
There are many idiots running around claiming to be CODE members, but actually arent.
They just tried to ride the wave, but actually are not CODE, or have any control/ownership of CODE.

Now, CODE is cashing out.
Thanks for all the donations/assets, you idiots.
You where never legit CODE to begin with.

Jokes on you lololololol
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
#54 - 2017-02-18 14:43:06 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Avaelica Kuershin wrote:
For how long?
I seem to recall other groups were supposedly buried ... not so long ago. Blink

They're reporting that Goonswarm had 30k Catalysts stolen as well...

Yep. Goons are broke now and no way Burn Jita will be happening now.

Everyon in highsec is totally safe now and can freely AFK mine in antitanked covetors in 0.5 system.

Totally all good.

I don't think so.

If (and that is a big IF) code is really disbanding, smaller groups will form and will go rampage. Bumping and ransoming will increase by a lot, when they loose their seemingly endless source of money.

Or they will reform themself with another leader and just take a break to recover from that shock.

Whatever is it. Change is good.

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Yebo Lakatosh
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2017-02-18 14:51:23 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
CODE is, and was, a ruse to exploit its "members", specifically.
Aren't all corps? Those industry or excavations based ones definately feel so... for an onlooker. Of course I would never draw such conclusions from the outside.

Elite F1 pilot since YC119, incarnate of honor, integrity and tidi.

Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2017-02-18 14:54:57 UTC
I've no idea whether what's been said is true.

It does sadden me that, as usual, all the carebears can go on about is isk. They seem to draw suspiciously sensual delight in even mentioning the alleged amount involved, slavering like rabid dogs over numbers on a page, pixels on a screen.

The New Order of Highsec was created by James 315 for a purpose which transcends all money-grubbing and isk-slurping; the rebuilding of Highsec under the aegis of the New Halaima Code of Conduct.

Fortunately, great ideas are impervious to assault by nefarious agency; and the Code is a great idea.

For me, it's back to business as usual....
Salvos Rhoska
#57 - 2017-02-18 15:10:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
^

Thats the whole joke.

You dont need to be in CODE to bump/gank.
You never did.

CODE is/was just a farcical front to accrue assets off sycophants.

Now your leaders have cashed out, leaving you with your butt hanging in the wind.

Do you feel stupid yet? You've been had..
Sir BloodArgon Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2017-02-18 15:15:17 UTC
Quote:
James 315 rage quitting after nonconsensual removal of his assets?
But the guy was just playing a role...
My irony meter just exploded.
Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#59 - 2017-02-18 15:21:37 UTC
There are so many people posting in a CODE thread to tell everyone how irrelevant CODE is, that one starts to suspect CODE-alts posting for the purposes of playing up CODEs relevance...

And the sheer effort involved, no matter who is really posting... Is exhausting to follow.

For a community that cant insult WoW quickly enough, you lot sure do love the "Sunday Drama Troll" model they practice...

Except like... every day.
Buoytender Bob
Ronin Exploration Mission and Mining
#60 - 2017-02-18 15:22:12 UTC
Someone in power told me this:

"It's all fake news!"

.....or is it?P

To buck the popular trend, I began to Rage Start instead of Rage Quit.

...and every time I get another piece of Carbon, I know exactly what CCP is getting this Christmas.