EVE New Citizens Q&A

Should i trust anyone? yesterday i was on my way to meet up with a friend of mine that ive played other games with, but when i was just about to jump through a random person private messaged me saying not to jump through because they were going to kill me and my machariel. Im wondering if i should trust anyone now, should i, or should i stick to playing with my brother irl?
Im a fairly new player, only got about 100 hours, but i have a machariel because my generous brother lent me 550mill so i could get started (im going to pay him back). Thankyou for your replies, its very helpful :D
Just need advice on what i should do, and what i should look out for. Thanks!

First of all, I'd sell the Mach and fly something less expensive. I doubt you have the skills to properly fly a Machiarel so early in the game. 110 frigates at 5 million ISK each will teach you 110 times more than 1 550M machiarel.

To answer your question, ask yourself, "What does this person stand to gain from betraying me?" If someone offers to double any ISK sent to them, they can easily keep it and they've gained your ISK. If someone recommends you take a certain gate, they could be waiting on the other side to attack you and steal whatever you're carrying (as well as get a sweet juicy killmail). That said, there are some good samaritans out there, and what you got could have been legitimate travel advice. I'd recommend joining a corp with your brother, generally corp members have less of a reason to betray you than random people.

By all means trust people, just not with your pod and stuff; this includes your brother BTW

Having the character skills to fly the ship is not the same as having the actual skills needed to fly the ship properly, the latter tend to come from experience.

If you make a mistake in the Machariel you're down a substantial amount of isk, especially for a newbie; as another poster has pointed out 100 frigate explosions will teach you far more than 1 Machariel explosion at a vastly reduced cost per lesson.

Eve is a game where the relationship between big and better depends on you rather than the gear.

I think you misunderstand me, the ship and module skills are irrelevant in the face of your character being very young. The skill requirements to actually sit in the ship are a very small part of being able to fly it properly, the skills I refer to are not ones that the game can give you, they are player skills rather than character skills.

Player skills take time to accumulate because they come with experience, experience being the name that we give to the mistakes that we learn from.

Mistakes increase your experience, experience decreases your mistakes.

The gist of my post is that losing a bunch of smaller ships by making mistakes; and learning from them, is part of the experience that will put you in a better position to be flying your Machariel properly.

By all means fly the Machariel, I will warn you that when, not if, it dies you're likely to regret making the mistake of flying it so soon in your Eve experience; if you can learn from it though it's all good.

In any matter that doesn't have anything to do with the Code, the New Order, or the CODE. alliance (my loyalty to James 315 and his holy movement is second to none), I'd even scam my own mother without a second thought if she played EVE. Of course, I'd buy her flowers and chocolates afterwards.

It doesn't mean that you shouldn't even try to build lasting relations with anyone. I know, probably, dozens of examples when players casually lend each other billions of ISK, share equipment, ships, or even characters and accounts (the latter is prohibited by the EULA - don't do that!!!). It backfires sometimes, but trust is probably the most valuable commodity in the game, so, in case of long-term relationships, one will think twice before ruining friendships to walk away with some space junk.

Whats latter, also thanks

You are going to have to trust some people in this game and you are going to have that trust violated at times. That just goes with any endeavor that involves working with other humans. You will have to decide when to trust people and when not to. You will not always be correct in your choices but that's just part of it.




This right here is the real mistake. NEVER FLY WHAT YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO COMFORTABLY REPLACE! Maybe your brother can afford to replace a Machariel easily but clearly you can not.

In order to learn in this game you need to take chances and make mistakes and learn from them. If you are flying cheap ships you can afford to shrug off lessons easily. If you are flying something very expensive you will be afraid to loose it and thus fly overly cautiously and learn very little.

IMHO the guys that were going to blow up your Machariel to teach you a lesson would probably be doing you a favor had they succeeded. Experience in this game is earn by actual players and not racked up in some easily quantifiable means by a character. You can not buy your way to success in this game. If you ask me your brother is hurting you not helping you. If you brother wanted to help you I think that you would be better served by being given a lot of cheap ships and told to loose them all and require glorious loss mails to chart your progress.

the main thing im afraid of is having my capsule killed

Ah okay, i'll look into getting a clone

Hello and welcome to Eve.

I think you did the right thing, it's always better to be safe than sorry for not listening to your inner voice of doubt. Trust is a commodity that's earned over time, not to be given out freely to strangers.

As for your ship, make sure you have the Core Fitting Skills trained up to max, fit up one specific type of defensive tank (shield or armor), never let Autopilot fly your ship (always do manual warp to gate / jump option) and always be ready to warp out if anybody suspicious lands on grid with you.

Good luck to you, may you have a long and rewarding career here in Eve.



DMC