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Expendable Unit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#121 - 2017-02-14 20:56:07 UTC
The issue with this game these days is that it became very simple to play, so even half-baked troglodytes can "play" it...I would not mind getting my crap blown up after spending a lot of time, but I want that occasional solo experience like back in the days where pirates hung around solo at gates with BCs and BBs...
These days, some kiddie sees one of those and will have to call his corp, alliance etc to form a fleet rather than to take it out.

The most amusing of all is that these kids think they are bad ass, and those laughable "kills" you see on the KBs of the "top killers' is actually looked upon with high admiration by today's player standards.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#122 - 2017-02-14 22:37:20 UTC
Eazeldown wrote:
I think the OP is correct eve is not what it used to be .
I mean there has always been scammers in eve but now there is so many in jita that you can't even always use the market there because of lag.
And ccp seem to condone this as chat bots are banned and all these scammers are quite clearly using chatbots and ccp does f all.

Last time I went to Jita I decided to try something and started to right click into local and just block whatever popped up there.

After less than a minute and maybe a dozen successful blocks Jita local was suddenly very, very quiet.

Most likely next time there will be other spammers available. But there numbers are way less than the scrolling of local does convey.

So I decided that I'm going to do this again next time. There's no big effort required to take Jita local back.

Remove standings and insurance.
Alderson Point
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#123 - 2017-02-14 22:54:03 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:
its true the game is ****. They really need to create penalties for suicide ganking so it will be less of a joke.

The penalty in high-sec is that you die if you commit a criminal act. Is that not sufficient enough?



The cost of dying for a suicide ganker is minimal, dying ain't what it used to be Lol
Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#124 - 2017-02-14 23:02:41 UTC
Alderson Point wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:
its true the game is ****. They really need to create penalties for suicide ganking so it will be less of a joke.

The penalty in high-sec is that you die if you commit a criminal act. Is that not sufficient enough?



The cost of dying for a suicide ganker is minimal, dying ain't what it used to be Lol


Yeah, it's more punishing than it used to be, not to mention more likely and much faster.

"Playing an MMO by yourself is like masturbating in the middle of an orgy." -Jonah Gravenstein
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#125 - 2017-02-15 10:26:37 UTC
Expendable Unit wrote:
The issue with this game these days is that it became very simple to play, so even half-baked troglodytes can "play" it...I would not mind getting my crap blown up after spending a lot of time, but I want that occasional solo experience like back in the days where pirates hung around solo at gates with BCs and BBs...
These days, some kiddie sees one of those and will have to call his corp, alliance etc to form a fleet rather than to take it out.

The most amusing of all is that these kids think they are bad ass, and those laughable "kills" you see on the KBs of the "top killers' is actually looked upon with high admiration by today's player standards.

Quality of the job you've done is not measured in the amount of sweat you've broken while doing it.

OT: It's always funny when someone who's upset that people aren't playing by his made-up rules call others "scrubs".

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#126 - 2017-02-15 10:59:52 UTC
Has stuff been handed out yet?


Can I have some?

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#127 - 2017-02-15 11:23:36 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
Has stuff been handed out yet?
Can I have some?

You know what they say about free candy...

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Expendable Unit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#128 - 2017-02-15 18:16:34 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Expendable Unit wrote:
The issue with this game these days is that it became very simple to play, so even half-baked troglodytes can "play" it...I would not mind getting my crap blown up after spending a lot of time, but I want that occasional solo experience like back in the days where pirates hung around solo at gates with BCs and BBs...
These days, some kiddie sees one of those and will have to call his corp, alliance etc to form a fleet rather than to take it out.

The most amusing of all is that these kids think they are bad ass, and those laughable "kills" you see on the KBs of the "top killers' is actually looked upon with high admiration by today's player standards.

Quality of the job you've done is not measured in the amount of sweat you've broken while doing it.

OT: It's always funny when someone who's upset that people aren't playing by his made-up rules call others "scrubs".


You are wrong. CCP kept making the game easier and easier and what happened at the end was a zerg fest. Again, if you love the simpleton approach, go ahead and make yourself feel right at home. Lowsec used to be dangerous because you never knew what could happen, and now, you always know what happens, where and at what time. Whole corps and alliances dedicate themselves for instance to sit on one gate. Great game eh? For the simpleton that sits on a gate all day long.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#129 - 2017-02-15 18:28:48 UTC
An observation (in the form of a queation I guess). Notice how people who hate certain things so much tend to concntrate on the motivations of people doing things they don't like?

I mean look at the people who are talking about gate camps. They seem way more bothered by the fact that someone is sitting in front of a computer playing a space video game and waiting for someone to jump through a gate so they can kill them. They deride it as 'lame' and 'not real pvp'.

At the same time, those of us who don't have a problem with the activity (gate camping) but merely see it asyet another challenge to be defeated, also don't give a rats ass as to why someone is doing it... I don't care for gate camps, don't participate in gate camps, don't find them interesting, and i LOVE the feeling of exhilaration I get from MWD/Cloaking my ship safely past them. It never crosses my mind to think of WHY tjhey are doing it. Game says they can, so they can, that's ll I need to know.

It works that way with everything not just gate camping. Ganking, bumping, some dude popping my cyno frig in low sec for no reason, hot dropping, cloaking camping , scamming, awoxxing etc. I don't care WHY some people enjoy those things, same way I know most people don't care about the fact that I gain this obscene amount of enjoyment out of killing the same rats in the same anomalies and complexes every night. And people who are succesful in avoiding people doing these things also tend to not care about why.

TL;DR, stop worrying about why someone who isn't you enjoys things you don't. Learn how to deny them their enjoyment at your expence and move on.
Rysdan
Club-303
#130 - 2017-02-15 19:27:02 UTC
I see a few threads like this currently, and am a little confused. From my perspective, as someone who has been playing off and on for a few years...the strategy is pretty much the same. I spent the vast majority of my earlier career as a professional carebear. Yet I was taught from the beginning about gate camps, suicide ganking, can flippers, and the scammers in Jita.

As I begin to explore WH's, LS and NS more and more these days, the strategy is still the same. I use the same methods I was taught years ago to keep my ship and clones alive. Does it always work? No. But for me, that's part of the thrill of EVE. But I use the overview, dscan, and local to try and determine the potential of camps and ganking, I check the map and/or Dotlan for stats on kills and traffic through systems. Too busy? Too many kills in the last hour or day? Find a different route. I vector in from different angles, I warp to safe spots if I think someone is trying to track me. Every time I undock, I presume I'm going to be attacked. I (usually) don't fly what I can't afford to lose, and I don't cry when I end up losing it. I certainly wouldn't set up shop in hostile systems without knowing the risk and being as prepared as I can be to defend or counter any attack.

Do I get salty sometimes? Sure. But mostly at myself. For not seeing it coming. For not being more careful. For flying gank magnets. For being horrible at pvp. Again... all part of the thrill of a true Everyone vs Everyone sandbox. The only one of its kind.


Am I missing something? In what way has the strategy to survive changed over the years?


Oh, and I'm taking donations of ISK from all rage-quitters. :)

Have a nice day and fly safe! o7
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#131 - 2017-02-15 19:28:51 UTC
Alderson Point wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:
its true the game is ****. They really need to create penalties for suicide ganking so it will be less of a joke.

The penalty in high-sec is that you die if you commit a criminal act. Is that not sufficient enough?



The cost of dying for a suicide ganker is minimal, dying ain't what it used to be Lol



Gank battleships used to be freeStraight
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#132 - 2017-02-15 19:29:56 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Aiwha wrote:
Has stuff been handed out yet?
Can I have some?

You know what they say about free candy...


Tastes better because its free.
Moac Tor
Cyber Core
Immediate Destruction
#133 - 2017-02-15 21:04:00 UTC
Not read through the thread yet and so someone may have already mentioned it, but if this guy sold his character on eBay then it should be easy enough for CCP to track it via the IP address of the forum alt.
Terhiss
United Mining and Hauling Inc
The Initiative.
#134 - 2017-02-15 21:12:59 UTC
You'll come back.

*Leans toward his wife in the armchair next to his and grins:

They always come back.
Brigadine Ferathine
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#135 - 2017-02-16 01:18:24 UTC
Terhiss wrote:
You'll come back.

*Leans toward his wife in the armchair next to his and grins:

They always come back.


Yeah... often a good long break... but they always come back.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#136 - 2017-02-16 01:23:34 UTC
Sometimes Dead is Better.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#137 - 2017-02-16 02:11:40 UTC
i like it how the rules of this site specificly say NOT to be mean to others and yet theres a few people here calling him salty
the ban hammer is gonna be happy
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#138 - 2017-02-16 02:17:48 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Sometimes Dead is Better.


I mine in Eve because I am too drunk to fish in WoW!




This is a vid game
Its not reality
Caught on a rant slide
No excuse for reality
Open your eyes
Look up to the skies and see
I'm just a pod boy
I extrude apathy
Because its easy isk don't you know?
Play balance, let it go
Any speed the ship goes doesn't really matter to me
to me

Arua, got killed again
They put a blaster 'gainst my head
Pulled their trigger now I'm dead
Arua, life had just begun
But now I am over twenty jumps away.
Arua, oo oo oo ooo
Didn't mean to pop and fry
I'd better not get podded again tomorrow
Implants gone, carry on, now doesn't even matter

Too late, my armors gone
Getting bumped I can't align
Cap is gone I'm out of time
Goodbye everybody
Its time to clone
Gotta leave this all behind and face the truth
Arua, oo oo oo oooo
I don't want to die
I sometimes wish I'd never been cloned at all...

(you get the idea)

This message brought to you by Experience(tm). When common sense fails you, experience will come to the rescue. Experience(tm) from the makers of CONCORD.

"If you are part of the problem, you will be nerfed." -MadMuppet
Brigadine Ferathine
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#139 - 2017-02-16 02:45:29 UTC
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:
i like it how the rules of this site specificly say NOT to be mean to others and yet theres a few people here calling him salty
the ban hammer is gonna be happy

I hate to say it but I don't think that gets enforced.
ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#140 - 2017-02-16 05:04:40 UTC
Quote:
33. "Quitting" posts are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience channel.

CCP recognize that during the course of gameplay a lot of friendships are made between players and that sometimes if a player is taking a break or departing from the EVE universe that they would like to say goodbye on the forums. Posts of this nature are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum, and must be civil and well worded.

However...

Quote:
22. Posting regarding RMT (Real Money Trading) is prohibited.

Posts discussing, linking to, or advertising RMT, including but not limited to the sale of in game items, assets, currency, characters or game accounts for real life money are strictly prohibited.

Therefore I will lock this and apologize for not addressing this thread sooner.

ISD Decoy

Captain

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department