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Major Exploit Used and Abused ATTENTION CCP

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DioKahn
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#21 - 2017-02-15 07:30:36 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
And who says low-sec gets to have all the fun...



Lowsec guys camp the same system... all day don't they?
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#22 - 2017-02-15 07:32:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Omar Alharazaad
oh snap. Too bad you didn't have a guy with no timers handy to grab up the free paladin.
I think the missed hijacking opportunity would be the thing that gave me the biggest sad in that case, to be honest.

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Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2017-02-15 07:34:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
DioKahn wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
And who says low-sec gets to have all the fun...



Lowsec guys camp the same system... all day don't they?


Yep. Old Man's Star, Amamake, any High-Low pipes get camped often.

Also, if CCP ignores your ticket, in all likelihood, they won't take action from forum posts especially in this particular board either. You will just get a thread lock and a black mark for your trouble.

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#24 - 2017-02-15 07:37:29 UTC
This seems like a bug more than an exploit.

When you engage a wartarget, you should have a limited engagement with him/her.

Irrespective of them then dropping Corp in their pod (totally ok to do so), you should have still had a limited engagement timer.

As much as I think your a **** OP for the way you carry on in the forum, there is something very wrong about what happened. It shouldn't happen that way, so a bug report should be filed.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#25 - 2017-02-15 07:41:24 UTC
Yeah, the dropping corp thing is dodgy, but mechanics is what they are.
The limited engagement thing is the real issue, even though they're not at war anymore they're still technically in a shooting battle at the moment.
Sounds buggy to me.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#26 - 2017-02-15 07:48:23 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
you really should file a support ticket rather than vent on forums.
it's odd as they shouldn't be able to board the ship while it's target locked by others.


Its not locked though, safety green and concord would have ecm'd


if they were at war with the target, then CONCORD isn't an issue. The issue *appears* to be the pally pilot ejecting from their ship, dropping corp, then re-boarding. At THAT point, they're now shooting an innocent and CONCORD shows up.

How they were able to re-board the ship when it was target locked is the issue at hand here.

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Alebrelle Kuatu
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2017-02-15 07:52:40 UTC
One of our pilots heard the chatter in local about this.

I find it hilarious that known functionality was used to thwart your attacks. I hope more do it.
Wanda Fayne
#28 - 2017-02-15 08:01:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Wanda Fayne
Alebrelle Kuatu wrote:
One of our pilots heard the chatter in local about this.

I find it hilarious that known functionality was used to thwart your attacks. I hope more do it.


Or have another neutral board the ship,
or swap ships entirely,
or swap corps and ships

Oh the combinationsBlink

And bring in a neutral orca or bowhead tooP

"your comments just confirms this whole idea is totally pathetic" -Lan Wang-

  • - "hub humping station gamey neutral logi warspam wankery" -Ralph King-Griffin-
Wanda Fayne
#29 - 2017-02-15 08:05:51 UTC
Oh snap, the same pilot lost a proteus a few days ago to the NPC belt miners.
Sigh... rough times.

"your comments just confirms this whole idea is totally pathetic" -Lan Wang-

  • - "hub humping station gamey neutral logi warspam wankery" -Ralph King-Griffin-
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#30 - 2017-02-15 08:11:11 UTC
It's still funny. Twisted

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Reinhardt Kreiss
TetraVaal Tactical Group
#31 - 2017-02-15 08:25:47 UTC
Wanda Fayne wrote:
Alebrelle Kuatu wrote:
One of our pilots heard the chatter in local about this.

I find it hilarious that known functionality was used to thwart your attacks. I hope more do it.


Or have another neutral board the ship,
or swap ships entirely,
or swap corps and ships

Oh the combinationsBlink

And bring in a neutral orca or bowhead tooP


Doesn't work, when an empty ship is locked only the previous pilot can reboard it. This is why it worked in the first place.
Wanda Fayne
#32 - 2017-02-15 08:39:21 UTC
Reinhardt Kreiss wrote:
Wanda Fayne wrote:
Alebrelle Kuatu wrote:
One of our pilots heard the chatter in local about this.

I find it hilarious that known functionality was used to thwart your attacks. I hope more do it.


Or have another neutral board the ship,
or swap ships entirely,
or swap corps and ships

Oh the combinationsBlink

And bring in a neutral orca or bowhead tooP


Doesn't work, when an empty ship is locked only the previous pilot can reboard it. This is why it worked in the first place.


Good to know, thx.

"your comments just confirms this whole idea is totally pathetic" -Lan Wang-

  • - "hub humping station gamey neutral logi warspam wankery" -Ralph King-Griffin-
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2017-02-15 08:40:22 UTC
Wanda Fayne wrote:
Oh snap, the same pilot lost a proteus a few days ago to the NPC belt miners.
Sigh... rough times.


NPC belt miners did something that actual player miners never do: Having escort. Escorts with some jacked up stats and tackle mods. Killing those guys aren't easy at all.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Alebrelle Kuatu
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2017-02-15 08:45:58 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Wanda Fayne wrote:
Oh snap, the same pilot lost a proteus a few days ago to the NPC belt miners.
Sigh... rough times.


NPC belt miners did something that actual player miners never do: Having escort. Escorts with some jacked up stats and tackle mods. Killing those guys aren't easy at all.


I wouldn't say "never." I've seen it in WHs twice.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#35 - 2017-02-15 08:53:52 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
you really should file a support ticket rather than vent on forums.
it's odd as they shouldn't be able to board the ship while it's target locked by others.


Its not locked though, safety green and concord would have ecm'd


if they were at war with the target, then CONCORD isn't an issue. The issue *appears* to be the pally pilot ejecting from their ship, dropping corp, then re-boarding. At THAT point, they're now shooting an innocent and CONCORD shows up.

How they were able to re-board the ship when it was target locked is the issue at hand here.


i dont see how locking a ship can prevent someone from boarding it, he clearly didnt have combat timer so i see no issue here

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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#36 - 2017-02-15 08:56:24 UTC
DioKahn wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Wardec tears are amazing


QQ more.... we know that you hate mercs and pvp but try to remember that this is about an exploit and not about you or your carebear views about pvp.


"hate pvp" grrr snuff

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Salvos Rhoska
#37 - 2017-02-15 09:14:31 UTC
DioKahn, considering your deliberate disruptive shiptoasting in previous threads, thanks for the hearty laughs I am enjoying from schadenfreude.

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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#38 - 2017-02-15 09:14:52 UTC
Even if he ejected, dropped corp and reboarded Im fine with this all being as it is though tbh its kinda a **** mechanic, reboarding like that I mean, there shouldve been limited engagements superceding the concordonkken portions and the kill still being made valid irrespective of the dropped war dec.

Ironically it would be an interesting mechanic change to still have the paly be a valid war target regardless of who else may board it. Would make for some hilarious neutral boarding party hijinx Id imagine.

Though I do still find it amusing when "elites" are outplayed either way. Makes me smile a bit.

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#39 - 2017-02-15 09:27:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
With the Legion's 920 scan resolution why didn't they just lock his capsule and pod him when he exited? It's not like ejecting, leaving a corporation and reboarding is instantaneous, either. $10 says they were too focused on destroying the Paladin to notice anything else going on. Also curious why the fastest locking ship didn't get taken out by CONCORD? Something seems off about the whole chain of events as described by the Op. Still funny as sh*t.

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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2017-02-15 09:39:44 UTC
Okay, here's what I get for not paying attention. How long it's been since you can change corps while not docked?

I recall there were talks of the issue a while, while back then now though...

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