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Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2017-02-14 18:42:58 UTC
Casserina Leshrac wrote:



Ah... an accusation.

I wonder when it would all come down to me.

Do you have evidence to support that I am directly responsible for this?



No. There is no credible evidence to support that this was an attack or that Omir, Sansha, the Cartel, Serpentis, Rabbit, Nauplius, Diana Kim or a band of enraged fedos had anything to do with this.

Hence why I suggested we deal with the emergency BEFORE the witch hunt.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#22 - 2017-02-14 18:43:12 UTC
Personally, I think Tibus Heth's head on a robot body is way more likely than it being Ms. Leshrac.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Doctor Valate
Delve Medical Services
#23 - 2017-02-14 18:46:06 UTC
Hmm. Well, at least now we know it's not the Debylian Flu. That simplifies things.

Now, there's a few possibilities here, none of which are particularly pleasant.

1st possibility - Someone was researching the Kyonoke agent, and their containment failed, leading to an accidental outbreak, that was then spread by the normal processes of interstellar trade and commerce. Oopsie.

2nd possibility - Someone, (or multiple someones), has the Kyonoke agent, and released it in several different locations as an attack on the entire cluster. You'd have to ask who'd benefit from that, and there are 2 main suspects that I can think of right now. Sansha's Nation, and the Drifters. Oh dear.

3rd possibility - The Kyonoke agent is not unique to Kyonoke Pit, and is in fact abundant throughout space. This is perhaps the most worrying possibility.

Doctor Valerie Valate. Not to be confused with the other Valerie Valate.
Morgan Wulver
SAYR Reserve Guard
SAYR Galactic
#24 - 2017-02-14 18:53:58 UTC
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
Personally, I think Tibus Heth's head on a robot body is way more likely than it being Ms. Leshrac.

For me it's right up there with the vengeful ghost of Jamyl or a senile Fatal brandishing a pointy stick.

Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#25 - 2017-02-14 18:55:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Pieter Tuulinen
This is a terrible tragedy and difficult decisions are going to have to be made. Again I am going to ask the authorities involved to be compassionate, but globally so. Ensuring this spreads no further is the top priority and it may be necessary to sacrifice the city, planet and all orbitals in order to do so.

I hope that quarantine was early enough to halt the spread of contagion.

Needless to say, this infection should be the top priority of all civilised groups in space. I hope we'll put aside petty differences in order to cooperate in this matter and it goes without saying that if this was the knowing act of any group, that they ought to face the undying and united hatred and vengeance of the whole Cluster.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#26 - 2017-02-14 18:59:21 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:



You forgot to mention...yourself.

Bloodraiders could have just as easily done this.

But how about we deal with the emergency before we start the witch hunt?




Sir,

You accused me directly before deflecting to Blood Raiders. Of which I am not a part of.

I would ask that you take care in what you post in the future to avoid confusing others.

Thank you.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Triffton Ambraelle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2017-02-14 19:03:06 UTC
It seems that The Scope has made a more formal, complete announcement. Finally.

I think we need to step up and help. We're not all scientists, but we can all help. I'll be ferrying supplies to the area, staging out of Airaken. Foodstuffs, water, basic medical suplies, and more. I'll have plenty of room for additional cargo, if anyone is thinking of pitching in as well. Just let me know and I'll add it to my shopping list.

For those of you who will be traveling from farther away, whether to help or to gawk or to add to your "impressive" kill tally, consider taking a shortcut through Thera. When I checked a few moments ago, there is a wormhole nine systems over in Earwik. It's far from safe, but it's beautiful, (generally) faster, and there is a Sisters' presence in the system. Say what you want about their motives or their religion, ships carrying aid and supplies have been streaming out of their stations for days. They do good work.

> In chasing the unknown, we discover ourselves.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#28 - 2017-02-14 19:46:12 UTC
Triffton Ambraelle wrote:
It seems that The Scope has made a more formal, complete announcement. Finally.

I think we need to step up and help. We're not all scientists, but we can all help. I'll be ferrying supplies to the area, staging out of Airaken. Foodstuffs, water, basic medical suplies, and more. I'll have plenty of room for additional cargo, if anyone is thinking of pitching in as well. Just let me know and I'll add it to my shopping list.

For those of you who will be traveling from farther away, whether to help or to gawk or to add to your "impressive" kill tally, consider taking a shortcut through Thera. When I checked a few moments ago, there is a wormhole nine systems over in Earwik. It's far from safe, but it's beautiful, (generally) faster, and there is a Sisters' presence in the system. Say what you want about their motives or their religion, ships carrying aid and supplies have been streaming out of their stations for days. They do good work.


If I read this correctly the systems have not been quarantined to prevent traffic.

This might not be the case in the near future.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Victoria Grey
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2017-02-14 20:11:19 UTC
This does seem like a targeted attack. There is one incident in each major empire and they have all the signs of sabotage (fallen frigates, independent pilot landings, &c) and the timing and placing of each outbreak shows signs that these might even be "tests" on the effectiveness of the attacks possibly before more important targets are hit.

Despite all that and how concerning this is and could be, I caution against brash actions and quick accusations. I am guilty of it as well and was quick to suspect a covert attack by the Empire before Efu was hit but at this point in the crises we need to stick with what we now know and what we can do about it.

Coordinate with the local authorities and response groups to work on what we can do right now with the knowledge we have. Further than that, this summit is providing the disparate Aid/Response groups to coordinate proper actions to better care for the affected locales and individuals.
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#30 - 2017-02-14 20:17:32 UTC
The last confirmed breach of the Kyonoke Pit was performed by Sansha's Nation during the first incursions. They are the most likely culprit for these outbreaks, but the question would be why they have waited so long to begin spreading it. This does not rule out another actor.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
Doctor Valate
Delve Medical Services
#31 - 2017-02-14 20:22:24 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
The last confirmed breach of the Kyonoke Pit was performed by Sansha's Nation during the first incursions. They are the most likely culprit for these outbreaks, but the question would be why they have waited so long to begin spreading it. This does not rule out another actor.


The obvious answer to that question, would be the time taken to develop a countermeasure to the Kyonoke agent, such that it becomes a weapon that is not a mortal hazard to the user.

A bioweapon is impractical if it is lethal to the side using it as well as the target.

And if that's the case, then it means Nation has a viable countermeasure.

Which is something to think about.

But that's a big IF.

Doctor Valerie Valate. Not to be confused with the other Valerie Valate.
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#32 - 2017-02-14 20:22:50 UTC
It is possible the Drifters acquired it in skirmishes with Nation in wormhole space. Of course, when all I have is a hammer . . .

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Persephone Alleile
Tartarus Covert Operations
#33 - 2017-02-14 20:25:02 UTC
There hasn't been any news of a break-in at the Kyonoke Pit has there?

If I am remembering correctly there was such a break-in many years ago, with one ship managing to elude Caldari defenders and disappear with a sample of the pathogen. Have they been sitting on it for all these years planning something?
Myxx
The Scope
#34 - 2017-02-14 20:28:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Myxx
Persephone Alleile wrote:
There hasn't been any news of a break-in at the Kyonoke Pit has there?

If I am remembering correctly there was such a break-in many years ago, with one ship managing to elude Caldari defenders and disappear with a sample of the pathogen. Have they been sitting on it for all these years planning something?


I'm almost certain it is Kuvakei. As much as I dread the idea he is alive, as much as I loathe the Nation, they have the capability to hold onto it.
H1de0
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#35 - 2017-02-14 20:34:38 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
Casserina Leshrac wrote:



Ah... an accusation.

I wonder when it would all come down to me.

Do you have evidence to support that I am directly responsible for this?



No. There is no credible evidence to support that this was an attack or that Omir, Sansha, the Cartel, Serpentis, Rabbit, Nauplius, Diana Kim or a band of enraged fedos had anything to do with this.

Hence why I suggested we deal with the emergency BEFORE the witch hunt.


Thank you for providing us with a voice of reason Mokk-san.

Decrypting the Sleeper cache..
Hetu Hegirin
Doomheim
#36 - 2017-02-14 20:39:03 UTC
Quartz Jori wrote:
An excerpt from the news crawl on the Scope's most recent report, which can be found here.

Quote:
>>BREAKING NEWS<< CALDARI STATE CONFIRMS PRESENCE OF KYONOKE PLAGUE IN QUARANTINED CITY OF MYRSKAA ON OIJANEN II - COMMUNICATION LOCKDOWN IN EFFECT


It looks like it really is Kyonoke this time.

Our production and distribution baseline resources in Molden Heath will stand down. Volunteer crews will be granted hazard pay to ensure pending contracts will be fulfilled. No further contracts will be taken.

Security duty personnel will be sequestered to their ships off-station, and placed on standby status.

My responsibility to the citizens under my employ includes safeguarding their well-being. I have done my part. The Republic bears the same burden for the Matari. It is beyond time for someone in the administration to display some semblance of leadership.
Graelyn
Aeternus Command Academy
#37 - 2017-02-14 20:56:20 UTC
Wow, the Scope is treating this with the importance of a local sporting event.

Cardinal Graelyn

Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#38 - 2017-02-14 21:42:23 UTC
Doctor Valate wrote:
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
The last confirmed breach of the Kyonoke Pit was performed by Sansha's Nation during the first incursions. They are the most likely culprit for these outbreaks, but the question would be why they have waited so long to begin spreading it. This does not rule out another actor.


The obvious answer to that question, would be the time taken to develop a countermeasure to the Kyonoke agent, such that it becomes a weapon that is not a mortal hazard to the user.

A bioweapon is impractical if it is lethal to the side using it as well as the target.

And if that's the case, then it means Nation has a viable countermeasure.

Which is something to think about.

But that's a big IF.


That is if the side that holds this weapon isn't suicidal and fanatic at the same time.

We must consider that such an enemy will certainly be unstoppable is so devoted.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Doctor Valate
Delve Medical Services
#39 - 2017-02-14 21:51:20 UTC
Casserina Leshrac wrote:
That is if the side that holds this weapon isn't suicidal and fanatic at the same time.


Oh. The Equilibrium of Mankind.

Oh dear.

Doctor Valerie Valate. Not to be confused with the other Valerie Valate.
Sinti Vailatti
Angelis Exploration
#40 - 2017-02-14 22:27:59 UTC
Graelyn wrote:
Wow, the Scope is treating this with the importance of a local sporting event.




"When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout."

“Where must we go...we who wander this wasteland, in search of our better selves?”