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Disposable Chick

Doomheim

Likes received: 2

#1 - 2017-02-14 18:15:13 UTC

Ladies and Gents

Why freeport can be instantly changed to NO freeport? Good question! Aparently there is no answers to it atm and CCP turns a blind eye to Trillions (and i mean ttrillions) of isk lost by players to this exploit to this day.

Explanation
As cyno goes up to a freeport (usualy that would be stationless systems) hunter alts apply it to a NON freeport and anything jumps in it has no tether. Then its tackled by 24/7 camper tengus/proteus or whatever eventually BO jumps in and starts bumping then capitals to kill.

I have counted 50 citadels in the regions of Metropolis, Heimatar, The forge in general hunter freeports has only 1 player in its corp. valasis1 in this case but there are tons of others.

The organiser : Sinshisko Van Raynar

PROOF (you can convo the victims in game and ask how it happened if its hard to believe)

https://zkillboard.com/related/30000199/201611041100/
https://zkillboard.com/related/30003446/201701262300/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59517899/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59923615/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59894394/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59298164/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60022646/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/58262371/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60017293/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60016894/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60010130/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59895766/

And i could sit there and copy it all day long its tons and tons of this kind of kills.

Im not sure why victims arent complaining and asking for reimburst because as it looks from where i sit it is a clrear take an unfair advantage of fail game mechanics. And laundry billions of isk from players every day.

This could be sorted with 1 click by profile used by citadels application 1-24hrs delay nad thats all.

Give me your toughts.

Mine. 3,562
Black Pedro Mine. Likes received: 3,562	#2 - 2017-02-14 18:22:01 UTC 6 I think that is awesome. 100% safe capital ship movement is anathema to this game. I am glad some creative players have found a way to make that only 99.999% safe now. Enjoy your insta-tether while you can. It will be changed eventually to put some risk back into moving around by jumping. The 8 Golden Rules of Eve Why Do They Gank?

Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 1,775
Neuntausend Republic Military School Minmatar Republic Likes received: 1,775	#3 - 2017-02-14 18:24:51 UTC 11 The question is: Why should the owner not be allowed to change docking/tethering rights whenever they want to? It's their citadel/outpost after all. If they want to change it, they should be allowed to do so. Travelers should take care which outposts and citadels they use as mid points. If you do not trust the owner, don't use their infrastructure.

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Krin Dessat Far Runner Likes received: 90	#4 - 2017-02-14 18:25:04 UTC 6 This is not an exploit - it is a feature Tip of the day: Do not trust citadels to remain open to you unless you know and trust the owners/operators

Yarosara Ruil

Likes received: 1,104

#5 - 2017-02-14 18:26:50 UTC

Black Pedro wrote:

Enjoy your insta-tether while you can. It will be changed eventually to put some risk back into moving around by jumping.

In that same note, enjoy your station games while you can before CCP adds Tethering to stations. It will be changed eventually so there's less risks on station camping revolved around instant-locking and bumping.

See? I can sound petulant too.

Black Pedro

Mine.

Likes received: 3,562

#6 - 2017-02-14 18:54:02 UTC

Yarosara Ruil wrote:

Black Pedro wrote:

Enjoy your insta-tether while you can. It will be changed eventually to put some risk back into moving around by jumping.

Actually. That sounds like a great idea. Stations games are terrible.

Players should be both be at risk in this game and not allowed to evade a fight so easily once they have committed.

There is far too much safety in this game. Can't really blame the self-interested players who whine for more safety, or the clever ones that master the mechanics to create it for themselves, but CCP has to resist this and be ever-vigilant to prevent this game from stagnating under its content-smothering effects.

The 8 Golden Rules of Eve

Why Do They Gank?


Disposable Chick Doomheim Likes received: 2	#7 - 2017-02-14 19:00:30 UTC \| Edited by: ISD Fractal 1 Yea be cocky untill you lose a mothership like this, and then you will be the bigest baby cry in eve. Profanity removed. - ISD Fractal

Nicolai Serkanner

Incredible.

Brave Collective

Likes received: 711

#8 - 2017-02-14 19:06:14 UTC

Disposable Chick wrote:

Being creative is not an exploit. Also, post with your main or GTFO.

Dreamweb Industries Novus Ordo. 832
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri Dreamweb Industries Novus Ordo. Likes received: 832	#9 - 2017-02-14 19:23:13 UTC 5 #2 rule of EVE: trust no one. If you want to guarantee safe logistics, set up your own citadels and don't rely on some kind stranger's "freeports". You've learnt something from your loss, whatever it was - now let uncle Darwin sort out the rest. Agent of the New Order Live by the Code - die by the Code. The Voice of Highsec

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Cade Windstalker Likes received: 1,631	#10 - 2017-02-14 19:37:57 UTC 7 You use other's Citadels at your own risk. This is absolutely intentional by CCP and your mistake if you rely on it.

Frostys Virpio

State War Academy

Caldari State

Likes received: 3,464

#11 - 2017-02-14 19:40:39 UTC

Neuntausend wrote:

The question is: Why should the owner not be allowed to change docking/tethering rights whenever they want to? It's their citadel/outpost after all. If they want to change it, they should be allowed to do so. Travelers should take care which outposts and citadels they use as mid points. If you do not trust the owner, don't use their infrastructure.

Does the access rights application really need to be instant? I don't mind imprudent people getting locked out but right now, even if you were to be prudent and checked the citadels seconds before jumping, the owner could beat you by swapping the ACL while you are in the jump animation.

Ocean Ormand

Bagel and Lox

Likes received: 62

#12 - 2017-02-14 19:41:32 UTC

Disposable Chick wrote:

Fortunately nobody reads these things anyway. Big smile

FaDoyToy 3,263
Chainsaw Plankton FaDoyToy Likes received: 3,263	#13 - 2017-02-14 19:44:38 UTC 7 hahahahahahaha! oh goodness, I haven't laughed at a post here in a while, really needed that. Trust is the most valuable commodity in eve and well, a neutral "freeport" has none from me. I can only assume people with capitals should know enough to know likewise... @ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Neuntausend

Republic Military School

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 1,775

#14 - 2017-02-14 19:49:11 UTC

Frostys Virpio wrote:

Yes, I do think it needs to be instant. If it's your structure, you can shut the doors whenever you want, and you can open them whenever you want. People would not trust a neutral party to provide the mid-point cyno for them, so why would they trust a neutral party to provide the mid-point station? Use NPC Null/Lowsec or blue/green citadels and outposts when traveling, and you will never even run into this issue.

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Salvos Rhoska Likes received: 3,071	#15 - 2017-02-14 20:17:32 UTC 2 Hilarious, and entirely valid. Unfortunately, may result in even more Citadel spam. PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent

Zoubidah Al-Kouffarde

Imperial Shipment

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 35

#16 - 2017-02-14 20:19:02 UTC

Disposable Chick wrote:

Just buy PLEX to offset the losses.

Are you poor? xD

"You would not be the first "ganker aligned" player to be found to having some issues. Here's a dark secret: there are some in AG who, because of battling gankers, have managed to get to know a few of them, found they had issues, and helped them" HW

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2Sonas1Cup Likes received: 255	#17 - 2017-02-14 20:25:53 UTC 4 I really like this mechanic, I hope ccp will never change it.

Shae Tadaruwa

Science and Trade Institute

Caldari State

Likes received: 1,747

#18 - 2017-02-14 21:01:02 UTC

Disposable Chick wrote:

Yea be cocky untill you lose a mothership like this, and then you will be the bigest baby cry bitches in eve.

I doubt it. You have that spot all sewn up already.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 83
Expendable Unit Science and Trade Institute Caldari State Likes received: 83	#19 - 2017-02-14 21:05:58 UTC 3 Citadels ..... lol

3 R Corporation 2,122
Ptraci 3 R Corporation Likes received: 2,122	#20 - 2017-02-14 21:13:43 UTC 4 Not an exploit but working as designed. It's up to you to make sure of where you are docking. Not all free ports are created equal.

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