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Sick and tired of shield miners

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Thomas Lot
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#41 - 2017-02-13 23:30:59 UTC
Amojin wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
You dont have to put tank on your mining ships. They will mine just fine without any defence modules.



Never heard of CODE, have you?

Wow... No, no they won't do just fine without tanks...



Good Lord Bob in space. Move out of high sec you scrub!
Amojin
Doomheim
#42 - 2017-02-13 23:37:08 UTC
Thomas Lot wrote:
Amojin wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
You dont have to put tank on your mining ships. They will mine just fine without any defence modules.



Never heard of CODE, have you?

Wow... No, no they won't do just fine without tanks...



Good Lord Bob in space. Move out of high sec you scrub!



To where, and why? So you can take advantage of me? It should be pretty obvious that I have a limited skill set - hybrids, drones, and armor. Science, research, and not much else.

So far, to be honest, in this game, I haven't met a lot of people, other than miners, who have any damned interest, any at all, in doing anything but making me their pawn, their F1 bot.

Yes, that's compelling, isn't it? For a social game? Here's your social aspect. Lying, murdering, and stealing.

Good job. Yeah, you're worth writing home about.
Cien Banchiere
Extrinsic Arcadia Distribution
#43 - 2017-02-13 23:43:07 UTC
Why are you so angry?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#44 - 2017-02-13 23:43:46 UTC
Cien Banchiere wrote:
Why are you so angry?


He has led a shielded life.
Amojin
Doomheim
#45 - 2017-02-13 23:48:45 UTC
Cien Banchiere wrote:
Why are you so angry?


Because I can run missions in an armor ship. I can toss an Ishtar at enemies. I can use armor based frigate for the same. I can run exploration, in a proteus with blasters. Armor tanked, again.

Any role I want to do in the game, I can, EXCEPT mining, where I am expected to play shield.

I won't invest more than lvl3 in those, because I'm not sure my 2 extractors, waiting in Jita, can pull more.

I'm not a killer, but a builder. I get that it's macho to be the ganker, but my heart isn't in it. It's more in tanking that sad fool to a death, but I have a disadvantage when harvesting, because my tank, in a shield, is 40% less than an armor tank. By design. By the only design in the game, that doesn't allow for equity.
Cien Banchiere
Extrinsic Arcadia Distribution
#46 - 2017-02-14 00:02:13 UTC
Ah. I too get angry when I refuse to do something about a problem I have. Grr, problems that won't fix themselves.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2017-02-14 00:02:32 UTC
Man up already and train those shield tanks.
Amojin
Doomheim
#48 - 2017-02-14 00:04:22 UTC
Cien Banchiere wrote:
Ah. I too get angry when I refuse to do something about a problem I have. Grr, problems that won't fix themselves.



There you have it.

But, I am doing something about it.

And you're helping me. As you all click the 'likes,' the thread count rises.

None of them belong to me.

You all hate me, but you love my detractors, and you are stupid enough to vote for them. CCP might see it. They might think about it.

Thank you.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#49 - 2017-02-14 00:04:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Neuntausend wrote:
Man up already and train those shield tanks.
I don't think he realises that the shield skills also help to boost the native tank on all of his armour ships.

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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#50 - 2017-02-14 00:04:38 UTC
Damn, now I'm out of popcorn Cry...

Remove standings and insurance.
Amojin
Doomheim
#51 - 2017-02-14 00:05:23 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
Man up already and train those shield tanks.



No. I'm a Gallente player. And I choose to remain at least loosely tied to that. Which means armor tanks only.
Amojin
Doomheim
#52 - 2017-02-14 00:06:36 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Neuntausend wrote:
Man up already and train those shield tanks.
I don't think he realises that the shield skills also help to boost the tank on all of his armour ships.



They do, but the buffer is so inconsequential, mathematically, as to be nothing, unless I have modules.

I'm not going to waste the time.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2017-02-14 00:07:00 UTC
Amojin wrote:
Neuntausend wrote:
Man up already and train those shield tanks.



No. I'm a Gallente player. And I choose to remain at least loosely tied to that. Which means armor tanks only.

If that's your fetish, all the power to you. Don't expect the game to cater to your special snowflake style of playing, though.
Quinn Hatfield
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2017-02-14 00:07:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinn Hatfield
Amojin wrote:
Neuntausend wrote:
Man up already and train those shield tanks.



No. I'm a Gallente player. And I choose to remain at least loosely tied to that. Which means armor tanks only.
Being stubborn is your problem. I exclusively fly Gallente yet my shield tanking skills are almost maxed out because every little helps.

They're considered core skills for good reason.

I don't burn bridges, I merely steal a bolt a day.
Cien Banchiere
Extrinsic Arcadia Distribution
#55 - 2017-02-14 00:09:51 UTC
But, why not have both? I have two toons that I use with max armor and shield skills. Makes life much more simple. I also shield tank most of my Gallente ships as others do. At least the ones I use.
Amojin
Doomheim
#56 - 2017-02-14 00:11:45 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
Amojin wrote:
Neuntausend wrote:
Man up already and train those shield tanks.



No. I'm a Gallente player. And I choose to remain at least loosely tied to that. Which means armor tanks only.

If that's your fetish, all the power to you. Don't expect the game to cater to your special snowflake style of playing, though.



Normally, I wouldn't. But their past actions, making every role viable with any tank?

Well, even if they didn't verbalize it, they said it. They can keep cheating us. I have the skills I need up to 3's and they're not going anywhere until I extract them.

But don't be surprised if, someday soon, you see an armor miner than can actually beat the hell out of you. You code cowards are just that. A single miner should not be able to win, certainly, but give a few of us a bit more offense?

Oops. It's high time that we had the right to use our racial tanks, and toss a bit more than drones at you. Even a single extra high slot would make 8 of you think again.
Amojin
Doomheim
#57 - 2017-02-14 00:13:08 UTC
Quinn Hatfield wrote:
Amojin wrote:
Neuntausend wrote:
Man up already and train those shield tanks.



No. I'm a Gallente player. And I choose to remain at least loosely tied to that. Which means armor tanks only.
Being stubborn is your problem. I exclusively fly Gallente yet my shield tanking skills are almost maxed out because every little helps.



Fine. You have that option. It's stupid, given the recent changes, but ok. You want a shield tanked Gallente ship? Go ahead and die.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#58 - 2017-02-14 00:15:55 UTC
Amojin wrote:
After a discussion on a local in game channel, a few mentioned that CCP may spy more here, than in game, and I should make a thread.

Fine. I'd like to see some armor based mining ships. The ones we currently have, in complete and total contradiction to every other roie in the game, are shield based, ONLY.

It's also amusing that they're using Gallente Starship Engineering as a skill to make them. We're not shield, but armor. Why not fix these to be like every other role in the game, that we characters that armor tank, can do that, and barring that, why not get rid of this lie?

Require Caldari starship engineering, not Gallente?


Shield tanked ishtars are awesome (or at least they were).

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#59 - 2017-02-14 00:16:13 UTC
I normal don't request this, but can we lock this thread? I feel dumber each time I read this title in the EVE General Discussion area...

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#60 - 2017-02-14 00:18:28 UTC
Amojin wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
Amojin wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
You dont have to put tank on your mining ships. They will mine just fine without any defence modules.



Never heard of CODE, have you?

Wow... No, no they won't do just fine without tanks...

Yes, I heard about CODE and they dont use much tank either.


*sigh*

[snip]



Might I suggest train Troll Detection to level 1?

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