Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yup. If you mine in anything other than a skiff or procuror you will eventually face a gank attempt. Even if you fit a tank your chances are not good as CODE. are not doing it for profit but more for ideological reasons. Still, the solution is to remain alert and not mine AFK or semi-AFK. If somebody you don’t know warps into the belt, and you are not in a skiff or procuror, GTFO.

And stop complaining about this. You asked for it and now you are getting it good and hard.

Would you mind to tell me who the alt is and the system you are mining in?
Maybe also skill levels and you're fitting.
I don't want you to fear any thread in future.

I really miss the days of patrolling highsec in a combat Iteron V picking fights with miners and pirates alike.

You can still find videos of that battle exhumer where the guy would bait can flippers and kill them with his exhumer. Can't do that anymore either.

Lol l think the old neocom icons are more recognisable than today's

- it is within the mechanics
- but one thing is really broken: a highsec ganker can do it again and again and again! So police or any other security forces are just cunts, a change would help solving that issue. Like highsec gankers would get something like extra long timer like jump fatique ! There is a difference between lowsec and highsec so why not force highsec gankers to fly only unarmed or non combat ships when destroyed several times for the same crime (ganking defenseless ships)? I understand the issue to play with the mechanics but i think it shouldn´t be that easy to do it again and again and again!
- same should be in low: i can´t get why gate guns are stop firing after i warped of to a bounce and warped back.... as long as i´m suspect for a crime every sec. gun in system should go on attacking me !!! Because i´m a criminal using weapon systems against someone or something!

I think the reason is not that the tools aren't there, it's more because miners became professional victims who rather cry than use the tools at their disposal.

I mean a Skiff can be fitted in a way that it basically matches a HAC but still able to mine. Also they usually have an Orca nearby which you can use to reship or refit, which will give you fleet boost and logistic support all while adding another insane amount of DPS with it's drones into the mix.

I never encountered a PvP fitted Skiff or miners using the true power of the Orca. Very very rarely they sometimes switch ships from a Hulk to a Skiff or something.

But even with all that potential firepower and trickery at their disposal they still rather cry how everything is balanced in the aggressors favor and how they are defenseless.

I actually make it a point to loot with a Venture into an Orca after a gank and if they attack me with whatever ill fitted ship they get killed with some stored toys from the Orca and some comments about how they can attack a defenseless ship and still loose. Not sure how many times that setup got buffed in the last years because of miner tears, so thanks for the tears indeed. I mean I don't even need a separate boost ship now.

What is broken is that the pilot you are shooting has not learned his lesson.

How often must you derp a ship before you stop derping your ships?

Don't be dumb. Don't be imprudent. Learn how the game works. If you don't know ask. There are lots of people here who would be glad to help.

Hell, I'd help you. If you posted, I just bought a freighter what can I do to minimize my risk to a freighter gank? I'd answer politely and with what I considered solid advice.

1. Don't put too much in the freighter in terms of isk value.
2. Fit a tank.
3. Use a scout.
4. Have the scout fit webs.
5. Don't be afraid to dock up and wait for it to be safer.

Others might have additional advice.

But to sit here and say, "No I should be allowed to be a moron and not suffer the consequences!" Makes you and entitle brat.

Yes, I believe you and I wasn't actually talking about you

It's not only about ganking, but jetcan miners are still a thing in some areas. So if you warp into a ball of Skiffs with a Venture and an Orca and steal all their ice or ore you would expect to get shredded to pieces if they are prepared. Because realistically you just went suspect in the middle of a HAC ball. But they usually just warp out and cry in local in the hope someone is doing something™

What is broken is that the pilot you are shooting has not learned his lesson.

How often must you derp a ship before you stop derping your ships?

Don't be dumb. Don't be imprudent. Learn how the game works. If you don't know ask. There are lots of people here who would be glad to help.

Hell, I'd help you. If you posted, I just bought a freighter what can I do to minimize my risk to a freighter gank? I'd answer politely and with what I considered solid advice.

1. Don't put too much in the freighter in terms of isk value.
2. Fit a tank.
3. Use a scout.
4. Have the scout fit webs.
5. Don't be afraid to dock up and wait for it to be safer.

Others might have additional advice.

But to sit here and say, "No I should be allowed to be a moron and not suffer the consequences!" Makes you and entitle brat.[/quote]

YOU don´t get it or are you just ignoring it! I´m saying that it is a broken mechanic when you can do a crime again and again and again! Same when you just warp of gate and warpü back to avoid gate guns!
And all your steps 1. to 6. doesn´t help anyone to get out alive if they are a target of suck a gank!

Noone should be feel safe anywhere in EVE but ppl doing 24/7 nothing else than ganking in high are a problem esp. when it is comming to new players!

So my wishes are really easy ... if you do a crime more often why should anyone allow you to get into their space with an armed ship? The meta are really stupid here! I think giving concord more brain would help :_) ...and again same for gate guns etc.!