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Commander IceQ
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2017-02-13 17:37:40 UTC
Hi

After last nights' o7 they showed a new model for the Chimera.... I have never been one to complain much about new models, but I really don't like the new model for the Chimera. There is nothing wrong with the current one (except maybe the spotty SKIN textures).

If you REALLY want to change a Caldari model, change the drake. Big smile (Still don't like the fact that the Nightwawk now looks like the ugly Drake.)

Just thought I would complain now while sitting in my Chimera. Smile

I do however like the new model for the Cormarant, that looks sweet.

I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.
Cade Windstalker
#2 - 2017-02-13 17:46:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Cade Windstalker
Not everyone is going to like every new model. Some people preferred the old Moa model while I personally love the new one and didn't like the old one.

Personally I'm going to hold off on judgement on the new Chimera. I'm not particularly attached to the old one, and the new one doesn't look like it's going to change that much.

Drake is fine though IMO. It's one of the more iconic hulls and at best needs a few tweaks to fit the newer Caldari style, not a huge rework.
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2017-02-13 19:48:56 UTC
Hideous and completely unnecessary. The current Chimera is one of the best models in the game. Great proportions, a unique yet functional and 'designed' look about it like all caldari ships have. And that characteristic underbite. The only issue with it is the issue with all caldari ships in that they have crappy skins.

This new one is entirely too narrow, looks more like a gunboat than a carrier, and is trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist, unless there is a rendering issue with the current model that CCP has kept quiet.

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Cade Windstalker
#4 - 2017-02-13 20:35:46 UTC
Kenrailae wrote:
Hideous and completely unnecessary. The current Chimera is one of the best models in the game. Great proportions, a unique yet functional and 'designed' look about it like all caldari ships have. And that characteristic underbite. The only issue with it is the issue with all caldari ships in that they have crappy skins.

This new one is entirely too narrow, looks more like a gunboat than a carrier, and is trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist, unless there is a rendering issue with the current model that CCP has kept quiet.


You mean besides the fact that a lot of these older models don't support the new texture tech (which is why their skins suck) and the Charon and all the capitals look like someone painted on a potato when you zoom in on them (something the new model fixes by using the Citadel texture tech).
Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2017-02-13 20:49:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Matthias Ancaladron
Kenrailae wrote:
Hideous and completely unnecessary. The current Chimera is one of the best models in the game. Great proportions, a unique yet functional and 'designed' look about it like all caldari ships have. And that characteristic underbite. The only issue with it is the issue with all caldari ships in that they have crappy skins.

This new one is entirely too narrow, looks more like a gunboat than a carrier, and is trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist, unless there is a rendering issue with the current model that CCP has kept quiet.


Nope this blows away current chimera.
http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/67023/1/Chimera_redesign.jpg
But it does seem more like a rokh redesign than chimera, but it's still a billion times better than the other caldari ships.
Blackbird and this are the only two really solid caldari ships now.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#6 - 2017-02-13 21:47:37 UTC
I really like the current chimera model. That one looks pretty sexy though. Agreed it looks like a rokh though.

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#7 - 2017-02-13 22:02:12 UTC
Oh? Where did you see that?

The only new model I saw that the new Cormorant, which looks pretty cool. Though a new toothbr- errm Osprey model would make me really happy.

I found the part where he explained how he developed the new look interesting. Now I hope the new Osprey model will look like a bird.

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#8 - 2017-02-14 02:05:30 UTC
Indeed the cormorant is gorgeous.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cormorant+redesign&oq=cormorant+redesign&aqs=chrome..69i57.8303j0j4&client=ms-android-sonymobile&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=VmhC-2W210KnZM:

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Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2017-02-14 02:32:40 UTC
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:
Kenrailae wrote:
Hideous and completely unnecessary. The current Chimera is one of the best models in the game. Great proportions, a unique yet functional and 'designed' look about it like all caldari ships have. And that characteristic underbite. The only issue with it is the issue with all caldari ships in that they have crappy skins.

This new one is entirely too narrow, looks more like a gunboat than a carrier, and is trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist, unless there is a rendering issue with the current model that CCP has kept quiet.


Nope this blows away current chimera.
http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/67023/1/Chimera_redesign.jpg
But it does seem more like a rokh redesign than chimera, but it's still a billion times better than the other caldari ships.
Blackbird and this are the only two really solid caldari ships now.




Nah, it removes all the current chimera's character and makes it look like just another generic caldari submarine.

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#10 - 2017-02-14 03:45:56 UTC
new chimera model just looks weak. as if the caldari suffered huge budget cuts so they needed to strip it down to its core.


and they hell are you talking about with the drake it looks like something built to take a hit and that is what it does

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Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2017-02-14 10:59:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Matthias Ancaladron
That cormorant pic looks good. Ugly paint job but good hull. I wish they would redo more ships.
Gallente need to get an algos and talos reskin. Those ships were ugly when they were brand new and never should have been released looking that bad. Same for that amarr drone destroyer.
Hopefully they're up next if they're doing destroyers right now.
Not sure why they jump around, you'd think they would go let's do all 4 of x-role frigate, then all 4 x-role of blank,, and roll them out all at once rather than jump around.

elitatwo wrote:
Oh? Where did you see that?

The only new model I saw that the new Cormorant, which looks pretty cool. Though a new toothbr- errm Osprey model would make me really happy.

I found the part where he explained how he developed the new look interesting. Now I hope the new Osprey model will look like a bird.

It's from like a year or two ago I think, i just remember all the ship arts cause even though i haven't been playing for years I always get the newsletters and look at any ship art they have.
I think there's a kestrel pic also but I think that ones fake.
Commander IceQ
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2017-02-14 16:08:36 UTC
On the comments of the Drake, I spent the 1st year staring at that model. It looks like an armour plate that fell off a bigger ship. Lol

I am not hating on it, some good examples mentioned in the tread so far, but I still am not a fan of the new design for this carrier.

Mostly reason I have been playing was getting this hull because I love the look of it. Big smile

I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#13 - 2017-02-14 16:14:46 UTC
no doubt the chimera is one of the best looking ships in eve and this no look barely even retains the spirit of the chimera

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Cade Windstalker
#14 - 2017-02-15 17:13:37 UTC
I recommend viewing the full bit from the end of the o7 show. The screen shot that's mostly being passed around is probably the worst angle for the model since the hull blends into the grey background and doesn't show off the shape very well.
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2017-02-15 19:14:46 UTC
Cade Windstalker wrote:
I recommend viewing the full bit from the end of the o7 show. The screen shot that's mostly being passed around is probably the worst angle for the model since the hull blends into the grey background and doesn't show off the shape very well.




Thing is that is still the same, more or less, model that was put out a year or so ago. It's not that we haven't seen it well enough.

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#16 - 2017-02-15 19:26:20 UTC
Cade Windstalker wrote:
I recommend viewing the full bit from the end of the o7 show. The screen shot that's mostly being passed around is probably the worst angle for the model since the hull blends into the grey background and doesn't show off the shape very well.



no matter the angle it looks thin and weak compared to the current one. to be honest it's probably one of the better angles where the shield generators don't look like stubby arms

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Scialt
Corporate Navy Police Force
Sleep Reapers
#17 - 2017-02-15 19:35:00 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Oh? Where did you see that?

The only new model I saw that the new Cormorant, which looks pretty cool. Though a new toothbr- errm Osprey model would make me really happy.

I found the part where he explained how he developed the new look interesting. Now I hope the new Osprey model will look like a bird.


I have two Ospreys (from back when they were mining ships). Those things are hideous. I refuse to fly them until they look less ugly.

Actual ospreys are nice looking animals.
Cade Windstalker
#18 - 2017-02-15 20:40:14 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Cade Windstalker wrote:
I recommend viewing the full bit from the end of the o7 show. The screen shot that's mostly being passed around is probably the worst angle for the model since the hull blends into the grey background and doesn't show off the shape very well.



no matter the angle it looks thin and weak compared to the current one. to be honest it's probably one of the better angles where the shield generators don't look like stubby arms


To each his or her own. Personally I care more about the shape of the upper deck and less about the shield generators (which I actually like) and that's hard to make out clearly from this screenshot.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#19 - 2017-02-15 21:37:39 UTC
The new chimera doesn't like you either....

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#20 - 2017-02-16 05:11:22 UTC
If they let me fly the new Chimera in high-sec I promose not to complain.

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