Ships & Modules

I was just curious why other players' experience has been with large hybrid weapons (specifically rails, but also blasters). Is a target painter more or less effective than a third tracking computer (tracking-speed scripted)?

Appreciated, thanks. Looks like I have my reading cut out for me...

It's mainly for PvE, and I've found I basically need 2 webs to shoot orbiting frigates or drones - which kind of messes with my existing setup. A sensor booster to lock them before they can close range is actually more effective (at least in PvE).

I added a pair of T2 Tracking Enhancers instead along with the pair of range-scripted T2 Tracking Computers. With the +8% tracking speed booster that gives me a +27% boost to tracking speed plus a token amount of range. The scan-scripted T2 Sensor Booster is a must-have so you can quickly lock and blap frigates and drones.

Agreed (and a stasis web). I miss the 90% web bonus of the Kronos...

Sorry, was referring to my Kronos.

you forgot to mention that if the frigate is "approaching" you.... then you need nothing to one shot it
FC what is transversal?

Don't forget that web/grappler/target painter will help your Drones too and a tracking computer/enhancer won't.

(While running the Gala event I noticed that web/target painter increases the damage of my 5 T2 Warriors to elite frigates quite a lot.)

A painter will be always more effective then a 3. TC since it is not affected by stacking penalty of the TCs and provides a bigger benefit in case of total tracking improvements then a TC would. However cycle time makes it tricky to line it up properly with hybrids(in comparison to like Tachs or CMs where it works without any issue by the higher cycle time).

I for myself never used one on turret ships for L4 missions since you can migrate nearly all the issues of time wasted on frigs by better positioning with a mwd on grid. However they are incredible on mixed weapon platforms as a Fleetphoon or a Rattlesnake because they work for all weapon systems.

For pure static shooting like in VG Incursions 1 TC, 2 RF painters(full fleet boosts + max skills) and 1 Web was the most effective mix on a 4 med slot hull without the web bonus(I missed my old pala, nearly every time I flown it after the changes) like my Pala.
While a 2. web is more effective that only comes into play once the targets are nearly fully affected by the slow down(takes time) while 2 painters help to apply damage in practice quicker and smother to small targets since you do not have to wait for the full slow down effect of the web and even 2 glancing hits to kill it are better then one hit after 3-4 cycles when the two webs full slowed it down.

However it is far more draining to use in the long run, what might or might not be a reason why it is not used more often outside of missile specific hulls.

True.

It also kind of depends on how often you run into issues with a frig for example.

This is a few years old and I think Sentry got some nerfs since then but I guess it kind of illustrates it well enught:

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1404/TFI_vs_Blockade(Angels).wmv

1 frig kill with light drones, all other killed with turrets and sentry drones out of web range, so it does not really make sense to use a web on the hull. On the Kronos I always used a web with the 90% web bonus since you could use 3 sentry drones that way and it made rails nearly as good as puls lasers in the ability to hit everything between 5 to 100km for good damage, what is very nice for most pve applications.