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CCP GZ for your last FAIL.

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GetOUT The Way817CH
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2017-02-11 19:27:42 UTC

I do not know who is the CCP employee responsible for the idea or concept that an account that your subscription now has to pay subscriptions for each char, in 13 years this had not been thinkable.

Whoever is the genius responsible for this, my congratulations, right now I have 5 chars in multiple training, that's it.

I leave eve and cancel the subscription, I can not understain this brainstorm with the same objective.

Guys enjoy the geniuses of CCP, I'm already tired.

Ty for play with me boys, Gl and fly safe.

CIAO.
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2017-02-11 19:33:56 UTC
Okay. So that was a pile of word salad... but from what I've managed to figure out. You are upset that you need to pay extra for multiple training? This isn't news. In fact you have ALWAYS only been able to train 1 character at a time. In fact I don't think the option to pay for multiple training even became available until 5 or so years ago.

And nothing at all says you HAVE to pay subscriptions for your alt slots. Hell nothing says you HAVE to pay at all now. Just go alpha and never pay a dime again.
2Sonas1Cup
#3 - 2017-02-11 19:34:21 UTC
eve is **** nowadays anyway you wont lose much.
GMs and isds destroyed this game.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#4 - 2017-02-11 19:38:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
At the OP> Wat™?

2Sonas1Cup wrote:
eve is **** nowadays anyway you wont lose much.
GMs and isds destroyed this game.
Wait... what...

I thought that it was suicide ganking this week, CCP next week, followed by PLEX and then Goons before rolling back to suicide ganking.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Takoma Panala
Doomheim
#5 - 2017-02-11 19:54:56 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
At the OP> Wat™?

2Sonas1Cup wrote:
eve is **** nowadays anyway you wont lose much.
GMs and isds destroyed this game.
Wait... what...

I thought that it was suicide ganking this week, CCP next week, followed by PLEX and then Goons before rolling back to suicide ganking.


Ok, we seriously have to compare notes. I thought it was AFK cloaking this week...
GetOUT The Way817CH
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2017-02-11 19:56:23 UTC  |  Edited by: GetOUT The Way817CH
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
Okay. So that was a pile of word salad... but from what I've managed to figure out. You are upset that you need to pay extra for multiple training? This isn't news. In fact you have ALWAYS only been able to train 1 character at a time. In fact I don't think the option to pay for multiple training even became available until 5 or so years ago.

And nothing at all says you HAVE to pay subscriptions for your alt slots. Hell nothing says you HAVE to pay at all now. Just go alpha and never pay a dime again.




My friend, this has been modified today, char is not in training to become Alpha, I have chars now in my accounts with 30-90m SP and if they are not trained CCP has left me with 4m of sp and they are ALPHA, They are no longer worth anything to me.
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2017-02-11 20:01:57 UTC
Takoma Panala wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
At the OP> Wat™?

2Sonas1Cup wrote:
eve is **** nowadays anyway you wont lose much.
GMs and isds destroyed this game.
Wait... what...

I thought that it was suicide ganking this week, CCP next week, followed by PLEX and then Goons before rolling back to suicide ganking.


Ok, we seriously have to compare notes. I thought it was AFK cloaking this week...


I thought it was low-sec gate camps?
StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#8 - 2017-02-11 20:06:34 UTC
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
Takoma Panala wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
At the OP> Wat™?

2Sonas1Cup wrote:
eve is **** nowadays anyway you wont lose much.
GMs and isds destroyed this game.
Wait... what...

I thought that it was suicide ganking this week, CCP next week, followed by PLEX and then Goons before rolling back to suicide ganking.


Ok, we seriously have to compare notes. I thought it was AFK cloaking this week...


I thought it was low-sec gate camps?


My marijuana induced psychosis told me it was the drake nerf. Am i on the wrong mailing list?

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#9 - 2017-02-11 20:34:30 UTC
StonerPhReaK wrote:
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
Takoma Panala wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
At the OP> Wat™?

2Sonas1Cup wrote:
eve is **** nowadays anyway you wont lose much.
GMs and isds destroyed this game.
Wait... what...

I thought that it was suicide ganking this week, CCP next week, followed by PLEX and then Goons before rolling back to suicide ganking.


Ok, we seriously have to compare notes. I thought it was AFK cloaking this week...


I thought it was low-sec gate camps?


My marijuana induced psychosis told me it was the drake nerf. Am i on the wrong mailing list?

Nonono... that one was forcibly drowned in a tub of its own tears.
It won't come back unless some necromancer at CCP brings it up.


I too thought it was "suicide ganking" week.

With a bit of "waaaaaa mah citadel is weak sauce!" peppered in.

How did you Veterans start?
Akane Togenada
Doomheim
#10 - 2017-02-11 20:42:26 UTC
GetOUT The Way817CH wrote:
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
Okay. So that was a pile of word salad... but from what I've managed to figure out. You are upset that you need to pay extra for multiple training? This isn't news. In fact you have ALWAYS only been able to train 1 character at a time. In fact I don't think the option to pay for multiple training even became available until 5 or so years ago.

And nothing at all says you HAVE to pay subscriptions for your alt slots. Hell nothing says you HAVE to pay at all now. Just go alpha and never pay a dime again.




My friend, this has been modified today, char is not in training to become Alpha, I have chars now in my accounts with 30-90m SP and if they are not trained CCP has left me with 4m of sp and they are ALPHA, They are no longer worth anything to me.


I'm still not sure what you mean, have you used Google translate or what ?

If I where to guess what the "issue" is you had a subcription which ran out and now your trained characters can only utilise skills that are available to Alpha characters. If this is the case then all I can say is: what did you expect ?

Did you think you could have an Omega account and train your characters for a while and then stop paying and keep them at Omega Level ? If so then please understand CCP needs to make money to keep the game running.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#11 - 2017-02-11 20:44:02 UTC
I thought AFK cloaking, gatecamps and (insert ship) nerfs were for months with an odd numbers of days.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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GetOUT The Way817CH
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2017-02-11 20:44:05 UTC

Apparently I've eaten a bug...

great.
Cade Windstalker
#13 - 2017-02-11 20:53:08 UTC
GetOUT The Way817CH wrote:

Apparently I've eaten a bug...

great.


I don't think you have a bug, I think you're confusing Multi-Character Training with Omega (aka subbed account) state. You can have multi-character training but not be an Omega account, you need to be subbed as Omega to get the benefits no matter how many MCT slots you have active.

If you intended to buy game time but instead bought MCT I would suggest you petition with a GM and see if you can get a refund or something applied to your account so you can buy actual game time...
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2017-02-11 20:53:18 UTC
Just to clarify is "svipul is cancer" still the default fall back? or did that actually get fixed?
Kousaka Otsu Shigure
#15 - 2017-02-11 20:56:23 UTC
Do not worry OP, your Omega skills are still there.

Here is a list of Alpha skills
https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/introducing-clone-states-and-the-future-of-access-to-eve-online/

When you sub/use a PLEX, everything gets unlocked again. So your 30~90M SP is still there. If a skill in the above link is listed, then you can train them while in Alpha mode.

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Ayx Shewma
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2017-02-11 21:43:55 UTC
GetOUT The Way817CH wrote:
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
Okay. So that was a pile of word salad... but from what I've managed to figure out. You are upset that you need to pay extra for multiple training? This isn't news. In fact you have ALWAYS only been able to train 1 character at a time. In fact I don't think the option to pay for multiple training even became available until 5 or so years ago.

And nothing at all says you HAVE to pay subscriptions for your alt slots. Hell nothing says you HAVE to pay at all now. Just go alpha and never pay a dime again.




My friend, this has been modified today, char is not in training to become Alpha, I have chars now in my accounts with 30-90m SP and if they are not trained CCP has left me with 4m of sp and they are ALPHA, They are no longer worth anything to me.


The game isn't free.

you still have to pay your subscription to use all your SP.

Get a job.
Sweet Adamas
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2017-02-11 21:56:32 UTC
I thought this was a nerf Titans thread
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2017-02-11 22:03:25 UTC
GetOUT The Way817CH wrote:
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
Okay. So that was a pile of word salad... but from what I've managed to figure out. You are upset that you need to pay extra for multiple training? This isn't news. In fact you have ALWAYS only been able to train 1 character at a time. In fact I don't think the option to pay for multiple training even became available until 5 or so years ago.

And nothing at all says you HAVE to pay subscriptions for your alt slots. Hell nothing says you HAVE to pay at all now. Just go alpha and never pay a dime again.




My friend, this has been modified today, char is not in training to become Alpha, I have chars now in my accounts with 30-90m SP and if they are not trained CCP has left me with 4m of sp and they are ALPHA, They are no longer worth anything to me.


What are you talking about? Seriously. If you are now Alpha then that means your sub lapsed. Whether or not you have multiple training has no effect of the clone state of individual characters, if the account is subbed the 3 char slots are omega, multiple training just gives you the option to train skills on more than one of the chars at a time. Please not going to Alpha does not remove SP it just puts most of the SP behind the pay wall.
Dark Lord Trump
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2017-02-11 22:11:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Dark Lord Trump
GetOUT The Way817CH wrote:
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
Okay. So that was a pile of word salad... but from what I've managed to figure out. You are upset that you need to pay extra for multiple training? This isn't news. In fact you have ALWAYS only been able to train 1 character at a time. In fact I don't think the option to pay for multiple training even became available until 5 or so years ago.

And nothing at all says you HAVE to pay subscriptions for your alt slots. Hell nothing says you HAVE to pay at all now. Just go alpha and never pay a dime again.




My friend, this has been modified today, char is not in training to become Alpha, I have chars now in my accounts with 30-90m SP and if they are not trained CCP has left me with 4m of sp and they are ALPHA, They are no longer worth anything to me.

OK... so you're mad that you can't play EvE the way you used to. This is understandable, once you taste the sweet fruit of the Omega Clone it's hard to go back. But just think for a moment:
Pre-Ascension: If you're subscribed, you can play, if not, you can't.
Post-Ascension: If you're subscribed, you get skill training faster than Alphas, and access to everything. If not, you can still play, but you're limited in what you can do.
So you now have more stuff for not paying than you did before.
Stop whining about free stuff.

Edit: And if you don't want your characters, can I have them/their stuff?

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2017-02-11 22:32:59 UTC
hell if you don't want those characters anymore I will buy them off you.
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