EVE General Discussion

Hey guys,

I have played this game on and off for a short while and recently came back to the game. Went out to Null Sec (syndicate) and spent 7 days ratting anomalies and belts, not one commander spawn, nothing at all, just low paying bounties.

Went back to my old area in High Sec and had 5 dread guristas in one evening with a total of 68 million ISK in loot...

Should it not be better in Null Sec for loot and higher spawn rate, the whole risk vs reward thing....just my opinion.

Seven days seems like a long time with no spawn though...guess I just have bad luck.

Also, I thought officer spawn is only in a small portion on Null -1.0 to -0.7 or am I wrong?

While I agree that for the little guy the payouts in Nullsec are a bit lackluster, it's not that bad. If you do not manage to pull 68M out of null in one evening, I don't know what to tell you.

It's worth mentioning in any case, that nullsec != nullsec. There's sov nullsec, and there's NPC nullsec. In sov nullsec you can install and upgrade an IHUB, so you can basically chain run the better anomalies such as Forsaken Hubs, Havens or Sanctums all day long without ever taking a break. That should give you between 60 and 120M per hour in bounties alone, plus the occasional faction spawn or escalation here and there.

In NPC null you don't have that, but you do have agents: Level 4 missions, especially burners pay ridiculously well in nullsec. Take that with a grain of salt, though, I don't know how good or bad the Syndicate LP store is.

If you are hunting for faction- or deadspace loot, and you are ratting in anomalies and belts, I'd say you are doing it wrong. Although anomalies can escalate into a complex on occasion, you'd be better off probing for complexes in the first place. That's where you can pull out loot in the hundreds of millions per site.

So, nullsec isn't terrible for PvE - you just need to learn what to do where.

Makes sense....I guess my issue is probably me....I look for the lazy factor, I High sec I pull into and L4 and watch Netflix :) in Null it seems like much more work but the payout does not seem all that much higher.

One thing though, I did 2 1/2 hour worth of belt ratting in High Sec and had 3 faction spawns but in syndicate I still have not gotten one in seven days, should the spawn rate not be higher rather than lower in null?

:P yea in seven days 4 hours a day I saw no faction spawns in belts and anomalies, so I have no hopes for ever seeing an officer spawn. I am just hoping for a faction spawn in the next month or so in syndicate, but not holding my breath...

Because shooting anything and everything that isn't blue is cool.

I personally only go to null-sec to do those kind of activity when I can afford it, or if I'm in a null-sec sov corp which is like 1 day out of the rest of years per years.

Anyhow, or anyways, it takes me 2 or 3 ships or more, with a fast system and multi-client to manage to scout and have enough security if I don't need a covert fleet to jump there (which is also not cheaper, in many aspects).

I just got a new Mach with Smart bombs and skills, but I never flown it yet because of the escort costs.

According to Dotlan you have the best chance of an officer spawn doing anomalies AND belt ratting in the lowest security system in syndicate which is S-U8A4 it has a security value of -0.45

I believe the security level of each system dictates how often officer spawns will appear, It works on a system where the more you kill you contribute to the chance of an officer showing up. So generally do your ratting in the lowest sec status possible and pay attention to the minus symbol in the sec status for the system i mentioned above. You can get lower than 0.00 commonly reffered to as the true sec.

You'll probably get a few posts here saying I'm wrong because some people think it is a broken mechanic. They are wrong unless ccp have said it's changed since I last looked.

Also do belt ratting. You get a different type of rat in a belt compared to an anom.

I used to live in a -1.00 system Querious, no word of a lie. I got the most senior npc officer in my belt. I killed it and got 6 billion isk in loot.

There's a reason Officer Loot is so rare, officer spawns are *waaaaay* rarer than Faction Rat spawns in High Sec, never mind low and null for that matter. You're saying you got 70m in loot from those High Sec spawns. Just for a start you can make that in an hour or two belt ratting in Null. An Officer drop starts around 1-2B and goes up to 20B or more for something like an Estamel's Invuln.

Your expectations are a little off here...

I thought you couldn't get faction spawns in high sec? I've gonna gone through systems with 20 mining belts in .5 and I've only ever seen 2-3 frigates every few belts as i go down the list and once a cruiser when I was just passing through.

I never got belt ratting in high sec. The res like... no money in it at all from what I can tell.
If you have expensive spawns in low/null it makes sense sure. But 21k from 3 frigates as the only spawn in 10 belts is just a waste of time unless there's something im missing