EVE General Discussion

Exactly one year ago CCP introduced a new "Incarna" camera.
There have been many stories lies why to change the old camera for a new one.
Let's see what we have during this year.

1. Custom tracking position - not implemented.
2. X, Y axes has a different sensitivity - no changes, no fixes.
3. Ship deviations from center is not optimized. The ship successfully continues to hide behind the pinned windows and HUD dashboard.
4. Zooming still not linear, and not responsive.
5. Useless undocking animation - So much time was wasted in vain!
6. Dynamic Center Offset, Dynamic FOV, and Useless undocking animation combined into single option. Another stupid decision. Only CCP can combine 3 absolutely different feature into one.

That's why I called new camera "Incarna". It seems we get Custom tracking position and other fixes only after WIS appearance. It means NEVER™.
This year has shown that the old code was much better than the new one.
CCP, I can say only one thing.
It's amazing, all this dev teams and you make a piece of cräp like this.

Aye, it is all a bit deflationary.

Sergey, What your words lack in grace they make up in poignancy!

While this thread is likely to get locked I feel inclined to post in it anyway.

I have really tried to like the new camera, i do like the offset of the target for the tracking camera but after a few minutes of using it I always end up having to turn it off again. Its just too sticky. When its enabled you have to manually move the camera after undocking/jumping to get tracking to work properly and its just obnoxious feeling. I also really dislike the way it bounces around when selecting different targets from overview instead of just shifting smoothly and directly to the next target the way the old camera did. If that could be smoothed out and the stickyness of the "cinematic" effects were to be fixed I might actually be able to leave some of the options enabled, alas they dont seem too concerned with improving an element of the game that is so fundamental to functionality so one must simply live w it. I understand a need for new camera code but it was done sooo half ass. Sorry but true.

Ps Did I forget to mention the nonpersistant fov settings... yea, that sucks too.

Pss Just had to come back and add. Ccp basically came out and said "we must have new code, here it is, live with it." and since then there have truckloads of both angry complaints and honest/valuable feedback and yet ccp seem to have just washed their hands of the issue and are just content to pretend it never happened. Sticking solidly to the attitude of here it is, deal with it. To act in such a way toward something so fundamental to game functionality, enjoyment and comfort is mind boggling to me. One of if not my biggest dissapointments in ccp in years.

Time does not in fact heal all things. Broken remains broken.

I.... I...agree new camera is just a bit worse than old one

"used to it" is not the same as "better" or even "as good as". You could get used to the smell of an open sewer, or eating Icelandic food. That doesn't make it not-bad.

So if you guys had to pick, what is the most important feature that you feel is missing from the new camera that existed on the old one?

I started using this "awesome" camera at the same time as you. For me, new camera it is a disaster. People have written many times about issues of the new camera. And still nothing is fixed and not all old features implemented into the game. But we have cool undock animation
And the worst thing that during this year, we have received no response from the CCP devteam.
A year of complete silence!
How do they plan to improve the work of this piece of .....?

ISD Fractal
Can ISD whop developers and bring them to justice???

agree with Charley Varrick
Custom tracking position is most important.

See the OP.

For me, it's the sluggish feel to it. It's most obvious when you sit in a citadel with the outside view and try to go from zoomed all the way in to literally any other zoom level. That sluggishness is everywhere, just most noticeable there. Granted, that's probably not the most important thing but I don't do anything important in EVE any more. Small things like the camera (but not just the camera) have been chipping away at the fun of EVE for a while now, making it easier to just not bother logging in.