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Low Sec Mining Venture
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Jake Asus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2017-02-08 18:03:43 UTC
Hey guys I was curious what a good fit would be for low sec mining in a Venture? Right now I am running into the issues trying to find a balance between protecting myself and mining yield. Any advice. Also I am solo mining figured you might need that piece of info.
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#2 - 2017-02-08 18:05:49 UTC
Would you be mining gas or ore?

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Jake Asus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2017-02-08 18:07:18 UTC
Ore for right now sorry I should have included that Big smile
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#4 - 2017-02-08 18:08:53 UTC
My advice is to avoid mining in any systems active with Faction Warfare.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#5 - 2017-02-08 18:16:30 UTC
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[Venture, Lulu II]

Mining Laser Upgrade I

5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Survey Scanner II

Miner II
Miner II
Salvager I

Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I


Hobgoblin I x2


This is a pretty old one I made for myself when I was more of an alpha age Big smile

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[Venture, ☾SAVMO]

Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Survey Scanner II

Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Improved Cloaking Device II

Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I


Honestly this is what you should be doing with your Ventures Blink (in before the PVP fits lol)


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My advice is to avoid mining in any systems active with Faction Warfare.


FW is so dead and any Venture on dscan I would think is probably in FW Roll lol

@lunettelulu7
Jake Asus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2017-02-08 18:31:03 UTC
Thanks Lulu any advice right now is very helpful the game is pretty overwhelming at times Shocked
Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
#7 - 2017-02-08 22:24:50 UTC
Lulu's fits seem like a good starting point to me. I've spent a great deal of time solo pve in low and one thing I've learned is that defenses are almost useless if you get caught by an experienced pvper or small group. All those shields do is increase suffering time. But that's me. I'd fit cloaky and agility. Aside from human pirates, low sec belt rats can be... a problem. You'll likely spend a lot of time finding an empty belt or running away from what was an empty belt. Agility will be your best friend there as well as zipping past the occasional gate camp. Fast to warp is happy to warp.

My #1 solo low sec rule: Cloak first, ask questions later. If you get caught you're 99% certain to lose your ship. (99% statistic is completely made up but feels very very real).

♪ They'll always be bloodclaws to me ♫
Sweet Adamas
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2017-02-09 00:30:26 UTC
if you are in lowsec and anyone enters the system warp to a safe spot straight away.

Only have your drones out when they are killing rats as you may have to enter warp at any time.
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#9 - 2017-02-09 03:30:01 UTC
I killed hundreds of ventures last year, all in lowsec, allowing me to watch an evolution of sorts.
By the end of the year i started seeing ancillary shield boosters and warp core stabs as the ones that got away. One cheeky blighter even had an ECM in the mids that let him moonwalk out.
Empty system best system.
Opportunistic attackers will fail due to warp core strength of the hull, determined attackers will have double scram.
Graduate to Prospect, so you can warp to an intercelestial and cloak.
One jump into lowsec is best, because every gate back to market is another dice-roll unscouted.
Learn the area, if you're deadset on lowsec mining the people are the biggest hurdle/asset.



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Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2017-02-09 03:49:07 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
I killed hundreds of ventures last year, all in lowsec, allowing me to watch an evolution of sorts.
By the end of the year i started seeing ancillary shield boosters and warp core stabs as the ones that got away. One cheeky blighter even had an ECM in the mids that let him moonwalk out.
Empty system best system.
Opportunistic attackers will fail due to warp core strength of the hull, determined attackers will have double scram.
Graduate to Prospect, so you can warp to an intercelestial and cloak.
One jump into lowsec is best, because every gate back to market is another dice-roll unscouted.
Learn the area, if you're deadset on lowsec mining the people are the biggest hurdle/asset.





He knows what he is talking about.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
BSchneider
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2017-02-09 07:49:52 UTC
Just wanted to say that this thread was nice to read - informative!
Otago Dogwalker
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#12 - 2017-02-09 08:28:29 UTC
As a noob, I like low sec mining with as basic a fit as possible.
Literally 2 miner lasers, 2 mining drones and afterburner.

You are going to die fast. Why fit more than necessary?
You can find Gneiss/Crokite deposits, on the scanner, fill your hold with 900k worth of rocks, dock, unload and repeat.
The only pain are rats..just warp away to the next belt etc etc..

Cheap as chips Lol
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2017-02-09 08:35:18 UTC
Otago Dogwalker wrote:
As a noob, I like low sec mining with as basic a fit as possible.
Literally 2 miner lasers, 2 mining drones and afterburner.

You are going to die fast. Why fit more than necessary?
You can find Gneiss/Crokite deposits, on the scanner, fill your hold with 900k worth of rocks, dock, unload and repeat.
The only pain are rats..just warp away to the next belt etc etc..

Cheap as chips Lol



Because as it turns out, even a single MSE is enough to help a venture survive a single alpha should you get locked and shot at before you could warp out, if for some reason you didn't catch the guy dropping in on you on short range d-scan.

So might as well add in a bit of tank and anything that will make other guys sad to improve your chances of surviving the haul.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2017-02-09 08:41:53 UTC
No experience on it but I would imagine using a cloak and going to the far ends of belts.
If you notice someone coming in you should be able to shut miners off and cloak at the far end of the belt and just head in a random direction.
Would make npcs annoying tho. Don't think you can cloak if they have you locked but I've never tried it
I imagine youd have to kill npcs fast or just move to a different belt every now and then.

I have a venture somewhere in one of my usual systems but it's for high sec,
2 medium regolith extenders, scanner, mining upgrade and miner II' s.
And I think purge rigs. I'm down to almost no pg for a third high but iirc it's like 36hp/s passive rep with a few thousand shield hp.
Kind of expensive for something that would get blown up in low sec. Probably costs 10m which imo is way to much to spend on a venture. Id rather just have a cloak and try to be sneaky, maybe put on an overdrive so your a smidge faster while cloaked. I'm not sure if an overdrive affects ore hold, you dont need the cargo hold space on a venture.
Kousaka Otsu Shigure
#15 - 2017-02-09 08:52:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Kousaka Otsu Shigure
Here I was thinking I've misclicked and this was the New Players Q&A. Lo and behold, its GD!

Everyone, have likes :D

@topic
Try to talk to the locals/neighbors, let them know you're REALLY just there for mining some ores and not a bait from their enemies. Maybe even befriend them to get opportunities like having blue standings with them, or even an invite to their groups. This will only work if you're a regular in a few systems though. And yeah, talk to them even if they blew up your ship..

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Kaivarian Coste
It Came From Thera
#16 - 2017-02-22 16:23:34 UTC
I've found FW systems to be great for Venture mining. If a Venture pops up on d-scan, most pirates will presume it's a stabbed plex farmer, and not a miner, and hop to another system.

On the otherhand, if you're in a non-FW system, pirates will rightly assume that Venture = miner.

Try to mine in a belt that's at least 14AU away from gates and stations. That way, you won't pop up on dscan of passers-by.

I wouldn't bother tanking the Venture. Low slot would be for a WCS, and ECM for mids if you can fit any. ECM can break the lock of any frigate-sized ganker.
Lan-Tui Aylet
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2017-02-22 17:08:42 UTC
I saw yesterday a Venture mining in a frontier Null region. It seemed rather risky to me, even if the area was pretty calm. I suppose low would be even worst, because of the comparative overpopulation.
Agent 5B
Venom and Bullet Corporation
#18 - 2017-02-22 19:12:06 UTC
Sweet Adamas wrote:
if you are in lowsec and anyone enters the system warp to a safe spot straight away.





lol