EVE General Discussion

I'm curious how many of you out there feel "dirty" when you're not training at an optimal SP rate? For high-sec only folks, I would imagine 2,700 SP/hour is a regular thing. For null-sec and PvP folks, I can imagine "optimal" is using perhaps +3 or +4 implants.

For example, If I was mapped Int / Mem, I would be willing to train the following types of skills indefinitely:
Int / Mem skils
Int / x skills (e.g. Navigation stuff)
Mem / Int skills (e.g. production stuff)

However, once I drop below 2,520 SP / hour, I start to feel really inefficient. (Yes, I realize this is somewhat ridiculous and restrictive.) But I'm almost never willing to train anything for more than a day or two at a sub-optimal rate. If I am desperate to unlock something, I'll buy an injector or two.

I'm curious how you all think in terms of what you're going to train sub-optimally, for how long, and how you deal with being mapped to one thing, but really needing a different set of skills - say - a set that requires 5+ injectors. I'm wondering if there are folks out there as OCD as I am.

I've been mapped to Perc / Will for about a year and a half, and I've probably spent no more than 48 hours training at less than 2,520 SP / hour. Injectors here and there.

And yes, I think it's things like this that strongly show a need for removing attributes.

Seriously, you might need medication

Since the "Training Skills" went away I find I'm much more calm about the whole thing, and the difference between optimal and pessimal training could be overcome by throwing a skill injector at it, so I don't feel like "I'm gonna die if I don't get every possible skillpoint" the way I did in the beginning.

On a somewhat related note, I think would be cool would be if CCP would start letting Omega players have a second character on the account train in parallel for free at Alpha (half speed) rates.

With skill injectors and the occasional accelerator it's less of an issue now.

Attributes and player optimization of skill training times adds a minor degree of depth to the game. They are something that you don't need to pay attention to, but that for those willing to put in the effort/resources can give you a competitive edge. We don't need CCP to water down the game further by removing functions like this, even if they seem minor. Details make the game.

I would have way more SP right now if i cared at all about my training rate, but since actual skills count for loads more than SP i try to focus on what really matters rather than some arbitrary SP/s rate

Besides SP farming what do you need optimal training speed for? I did a remap early with this character, and then I reset it back to a more even spread once I realized that I train what I want to train, based on what I want to do in the game.

SP optimization in my mind has and will always be about getting an alt up to speed as quickly as possible, so you can start plexing that account as soon as possible.

I was always more concerned about waking up at the right time to swtich my skills so I wouldn't lose time, but that was a ways back in time. I also forgot all about the learning skills. I don't even bohter with them now. I grab a set of risk appropriate implants and chaarge forward.

I know this may horrify some people but I have a character ending training tonight at midnight, and it will be 6 am tomorrow before I actually start up the other queue on that account.

Because I, like the honey badger, have 0 ***** to give.

I think I did amarr tactical destroyer from 0 to 5 on an int/mem remap, and infomorph psyc to 5 and a few levels of advanced. beyond that I have the SP I'm not too worried either way. I don't feel like I need to train most stuff that comes out immediately, and most of the old stuff I already have trained. if it is a good skill I'll train it off remap.

I'm under 7days on my drone remap and it will be a per/wp after that to catch up on all the new skills like the other tactical destroyers, t2 cap guns, command destroyers, and other skills like non amarr carriers. After that probably do a leadership remap, and then after that who knows what as CCP adds stuff over the next year or two.