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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#21 - 2017-02-06 19:51:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Nice kill by VMG on a Tayra flown by Calrizzan with no tank or modules at all for that matter moving 135m worth of rigs, mag stabs and blasters and some ammo. He needs a refresher on the code or so it seems and he obviously has no idea what a war dec is either.... Lol

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#22 - 2017-02-06 21:10:19 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Nice kill by VMG on a Tayra flown by Calrizzan with no tank or modules at all for that matter moving 135m worth of rigs, mag stabs and blasters and some ammo. He needs a refresher on the code or so it seems and he obviously has no idea what a war dec is either.... Lol

Obviously that guy is a newbro who doesn't have 58 alts like most of us
Ship happens (but you knew all of that right?)

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#23 - 2017-02-06 21:24:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Nice kill by VMG on a Tayra flown by Calrizzan with no tank or modules at all for that matter moving 135m worth of rigs, mag stabs and blasters and some ammo. He needs a refresher on the code or so it seems and he obviously has no idea what a war dec is either.... Lol

Obviously that guy is a newbro who doesn't have 58 alts like most of us
Ship happens (but you knew all of that right?)


So the CEO of that corp is bad at Eve, first of all he has not explained to the newbro how to correctly fit a ship, there are plenty of gankers around the pipes who would gank that ship as it has no tank. Also the CEO of that corp failed to warn him that there was a war on, you should now run along and do a major expose on this corp in miner bumping as the CEO is obviously not worthy of running a corp. The newbro has perhaps learnt his lesson the hard way and he will now play Eve for the rest of his life.

I think that just about covers it doesn't it. ShockedBig smile

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
ST0NER SMURF
Vrix Nation
#24 - 2017-02-06 22:46:48 UTC  |  Edited by: ST0NER SMURF
Dracvlad wrote:
The amusing thing about these type of threads Dom is that CODE is desperately trying to stay relevant or have an impact. Someone linked in AG chat Smurf's blog, to be honest I could not help myself and jumped in and had a look, and it was just so bad, obviously in the same vein as miner bumping.

1 - The first thing which amused me was suggesting that AG did not know that the anti-Smurf player in a thrasher was failing to save any victims, of course we knew that, but he was having fun and that was all that really mattered, to go into a long winded blog post on that was truly amazing and I found it extremely funny. In affect shooting ships that cannot shoot back is no different in affect to shooting ships that are about to be concorded, though racing CONCORD is difficult, Smurf is having fun and making ISK and taht player was having fun and making a little ISK.

I was interested in the Griffin setup and when one player was doing it I used an alt to give him remote sensor boosts, we saved two out of eight, but those two were killed the next system along by the relentless smurf, even with the boosts we realised that when smurf landed he had a period to pick his time to lock and shoot and for the Griffin it was difficult to pick right moment to get the faster lock on to then ECM him. I had one session and decided it was not worth doing.

Smurf also suggested that this DCM mining fleet thing was me suggesting that as a CODE idea, but that came from Remiel Pollard and we saw a gank carried out by multiple toons all in DCM, which made me laugh, so I warned people of the risk. Since that point we found out that it will require the player to aggress the mining fleet, so no issue.

2 - Another thing Smurf mentioned which I found really funny was my noticing Mr Vitrix linked with a corp who had a Citadel in Sarum Prime, he seemed to be disappointed ttat I mentioned it as being linked to him potentially and that I had not war decked it, but that Citadel was already reinforced by P I R A T and we only picked up on it just before the final timer, why war dec something that was so efficiently blown up by P I R A T, I watched it blow up and the salt from the citadel owner was evident, I would not call Pi I R A T noobs.

3 - Like all CODE propaganda it was truly badly done, we had a new player having fun blapping the already successful Smurf alt, so what, he was having fun and he was for a while making ISK, up until someone put MTU's down and that caused him to get rather upset and gave Smurf the idea for his blog.

There are a lot of new players jumping into AG at times and yesterday I had to put someone right on the fact that fleets make no difference in hisec in terms of aggression mechanics, but I have to ask you CODE players just because someone said that in AG does it make it in your heads that AG players think that fleets enable you to do things without going suspect etc. Roll If that is what you think more fool you.

4 - I find Aaaargh immensely funny and dedicated, but I had to laugh at that blog effort and thought it was a good place to point it out here.

One final laugh, as for Aaaargs scouts I shot one with an alt and failed, Arrggggh put 25m KR on him so I left him in lowsec for a month, no joy for you there, but of course I don't know what I am doing Big smileShocked

Have fun, because I rather enjoyed it.

https://st0nersmurf.wordpress.com/


ya guys stay wierd ;o but al the wierd **** i see at anti-gank always keeps up a smile ;o tobad i did not screenshot all the other crap ;o

as to 1 - the diff is that when antigank goes away for example at jan 2017, then still the same amount of smurf had died, same amount of pods would have died, only diff is that the 2 antigankers woudl stil be alive, not that they fly anythingh exspensive

so antigank or not at Kaaputenen makes zero diff, wel 1 smal diff is that now some antigankers collect some concordlosmails and loot

number 2 - wel good for pirat for blowing up a citidal. kinda hoped someone would wardec them thinking there me ;o would be funny as hell to see stuff gets blowup because of paranoid **** ;o also kudos for gooing that far back on the killboard, damn man ;o did ya save the tears ? would love to see it ;)

but nope there yust some random ppl shooting a poco when we where around, at that time we shot control towers alot although this was a npc poco everyone was shooting back in the days ;)
but hey good luck trying to go through all my kils and put everyone thats on there red ;)

at 3 - alot ag does not seem to want to understand the game, having party's because there fast enough to get on a concord mail and some actualy thinking that they saved ppl, eventhough even some at ag themself try to explain they did not actualy saved anyone and thats not only newbro's, it always have been like that
so ya can try to denie and spinn it and call it propaganda but when its true its a whole diff thingh

and at 4- im a Smurf, im not Agent Aaaarrgg, me and him always thought it was funny about discusions who is who at antigank so we made some scouts to **** around ;o so by now even some gankers at minerbumping are confused ;o

offcourse i dont expect much from the whole awesome gank intel system to actualy know stuff, often i had a look at 1 of my smurfs when somone at gank-intel says im at a place im not ;o made me look though

al in all that blog has been made for my sponsors, it was abit long this time as i normaly dont take screenies but thx for reading ;o

edit: btw im not a goon and do shoot them when they on autopilot, i do leave them alone when ganking freighters though ;)

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Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#25 - 2017-02-06 23:53:31 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Nice kill by VMG on a Tayra flown by Calrizzan with no tank or modules at all for that matter moving 135m worth of rigs, mag stabs and blasters and some ammo. He needs a refresher on the code or so it seems and he obviously has no idea what a war dec is either.... Lol

Obviously that guy is a newbro who doesn't have 58 alts like most of us
Ship happens (but you knew all of that right?)


So the CEO of that corp is bad at Eve, first of all he has not explained to the newbro how to correctly fit a ship, there are plenty of gankers around the pipes who would gank that ship as it has no tank. Also the CEO of that corp failed to warn him that there was a war on, you should now run along and do a major expose on this corp in miner bumping as the CEO is obviously not worthy of running a corp. The newbro has perhaps learnt his lesson the hard way and he will now play Eve for the rest of his life.

I think that just about covers it doesn't it. ShockedBig smile

Hey guess what
The ceo don't care about some pleb AG'S opinion
What's 10m mote in losses going to change on a 40t isk destroyed kb? Lmao

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#26 - 2017-02-07 06:37:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Nice kill by VMG on a Tayra flown by Calrizzan with no tank or modules at all for that matter moving 135m worth of rigs, mag stabs and blasters and some ammo. He needs a refresher on the code or so it seems and he obviously has no idea what a war dec is either.... Lol

Obviously that guy is a newbro who doesn't have 58 alts like most of us
Ship happens (but you knew all of that right?)


So the CEO of that corp is bad at Eve, first of all he has not explained to the newbro how to correctly fit a ship, there are plenty of gankers around the pipes who would gank that ship as it has no tank. Also the CEO of that corp failed to warn him that there was a war on, you should now run along and do a major expose on this corp in miner bumping as the CEO is obviously not worthy of running a corp. The newbro has perhaps learnt his lesson the hard way and he will now play Eve for the rest of his life.

I think that just about covers it doesn't it. ShockedBig smile

Hey guess what
The ceo don't care about some pleb AG'S opinion
What's 10m mote in losses going to change on a 40t isk destroyed kb? Lmao


So the CEO of a major CODE corp iis failing in the exact same way that CODE has castigated others for and you seem to think it is some trivial matter that can be ignored because the one bringing it to the attention of everyone does the odd AG effort.

That incompetent CEO has failed to prepare his new corp mate for the rigours of life in Eve, but not only that, he failed the CODE's own code. I hope that the court of C&P pick up on this and give their views on such weighty matters pertaining to gross negligence of an entity that is supposed to in its own words push good practice across Eve.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#27 - 2017-02-07 06:49:15 UTC
ST0NER SMURF wrote:
ya guys stay wierd ;o but al the wierd **** i see at anti-gank always keeps up a smile ;o tobad i did not screenshot all the other crap ;o

as to 1 - the diff is that when antigank goes away for example at jan 2017, then still the same amount of smurf had died, same amount of pods would have died, only diff is that the 2 antigankers woudl stil be alive, not that they fly anythingh exspensive

so antigank or not at Kaaputenen makes zero diff, wel 1 smal diff is that now some antigankers collect some concordlosmails and loot

number 2 - wel good for pirat for blowing up a citidal. kinda hoped someone would wardec them thinking there me ;o would be funny as hell to see stuff gets blowup because of paranoid **** ;o also kudos for gooing that far back on the killboard, damn man ;o did ya save the tears ? would love to see it ;)

but nope there yust some random ppl shooting a poco when we where around, at that time we shot control towers alot although this was a npc poco everyone was shooting back in the days ;)
but hey good luck trying to go through all my kils and put everyone thats on there red ;)

at 3 - alot ag does not seem to want to understand the game, having party's because there fast enough to get on a concord mail and some actualy thinking that they saved ppl, eventhough even some at ag themself try to explain they did not actualy saved anyone and thats not only newbro's, it always have been like that
so ya can try to denie and spinn it and call it propaganda but when its true its a whole diff thingh

and at 4- im a Smurf, im not Agent Aaaarrgg, me and him always thought it was funny about discusions who is who at antigank so we made some scouts to **** around ;o so by now even some gankers at minerbumping are confused ;o

offcourse i dont expect much from the whole awesome gank intel system to actualy know stuff, often i had a look at 1 of my smurfs when somone at gank-intel says im at a place im not ;o made me look though

al in all that blog has been made for my sponsors, it was abit long this time as i normaly dont take screenies but thx for reading ;o

edit: btw im not a goon and do shoot them when they on autopilot, i do leave them alone when ganking freighters though ;)


I made my point on 1 and 2, but on 3 I once got castigated by Ima wreckyou for telling people not to bother going after MTU mission baiters so when I saw AG players were having fun even when not saving people, I said to myself let them get on with it and have fun and push them towards more meaningful stuff later, but also AG is a resistance movement, just doing something is something, you are having fun blapping pods and small stuff they are having fun racing CONCORD, so what?

4 That is quite funny, you are referred to as a group in terms of the Smurfs as referring to the pod gankers based in Kaap, I think I had you marked down as two different players at some point, but you and your colleague are utterly relentless.. Always glad to hear people shoot Goons Big smile

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#28 - 2017-02-07 10:53:22 UTC
I checked my info, guy is no newbro
Doesn't change the part where literally no one cares about that loss other than you...
People expect and are expected to lose ships.

If a CODE. hauler loss has this much effect on you maybe you should try to save those too Lol

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#29 - 2017-02-07 11:15:01 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
I checked my info, guy is no newbro
Doesn't change the part where literally no one cares about that loss other than you...
People expect and are expected to lose ships.

If a CODE. hauler loss has this much effect on you maybe you should try to save those too Lol


You keep changing your story, one moment you are a Goon and the next you are not, at one point he is a newb and the next we know, he is not.

I just find the loss rather amusing because lack of fitting of any type and flying blindly around the pipes with no scout with a very gank worthy amount of cargo. On your website you chaps make a big song and dance about this type of stuff, perhaps you should follow your own CODE? Anyway whatever it did it showed that war decs do have an impact on your alliance as not all of the characters are -10 and you do have supply runs for your gankers which some dimwits do when they are war decked by known pipe campers. It is a special kind of dumb which really made me chuckle, which is one of the reasons I like to watch what CODE is up to.

o7

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#30 - 2017-02-07 13:10:21 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
I checked my info, guy is no newbro
Doesn't change the part where literally no one cares about that loss other than you...
People expect and are expected to lose ships.

If a CODE. hauler loss has this much effect on you maybe you should try to save those too Lol


You keep changing your story, one moment you are a Goon and the next you are not, at one point he is a newb and the next we know, he is not.

I just find the loss rather amusing because lack of fitting of any type and flying blindly around the pipes with no scout with a very gank worthy amount of cargo. On your website you chaps make a big song and dance about this type of stuff, perhaps you should follow your own CODE? Anyway whatever it did it showed that war decs do have an impact on your alliance as not all of the characters are -10 and you do have supply runs for your gankers which some dimwits do when they are war decked by known pipe campers. It is a special kind of dumb which really made me chuckle, which is one of the reasons I like to watch what CODE is up to.

o7

Last I heard you guys flee your corps whenever CODE. decs you lol
And afaik, we're all still people, we all make mistakes sometimes (unless your name is dracvlad ofc /s)

I remember that time where I lost a legion because I didn't pay attention to my destination
I ended up in lowsec, lost my ship and laughed it off.. but learned a lesson
experience is earned through screwing up, over and over until one adapts... same applies to EVE

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#31 - 2017-02-07 14:07:14 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
I checked my info, guy is no newbro
Doesn't change the part where literally no one cares about that loss other than you...
People expect and are expected to lose ships.

If a CODE. hauler loss has this much effect on you maybe you should try to save those too Lol


You keep changing your story, one moment you are a Goon and the next you are not, at one point he is a newb and the next we know, he is not.

I just find the loss rather amusing because lack of fitting of any type and flying blindly around the pipes with no scout with a very gank worthy amount of cargo. On your website you chaps make a big song and dance about this type of stuff, perhaps you should follow your own CODE? Anyway whatever it did it showed that war decs do have an impact on your alliance as not all of the characters are -10 and you do have supply runs for your gankers which some dimwits do when they are war decked by known pipe campers. It is a special kind of dumb which really made me chuckle, which is one of the reasons I like to watch what CODE is up to.

o7

Last I heard you guys flee your corps whenever CODE. decs you lol
And afaik, we're all still people, we all make mistakes sometimes (unless your name is dracvlad ofc /s)

I remember that time where I lost a legion because I didn't pay attention to my destination
I ended up in lowsec, lost my ship and laughed it off.. but learned a lesson
experience is earned through screwing up, over and over until one adapts... same applies to EVE


Well you only have to look at my employment history see see how rubbish that statement was, last corp change was 3 years and 5 months ago and within that period are a number of war decs which I did not run from. I am in the process of perhaps moving to 0.0 and joining an old mates alliance, so if you see me decamp in the near future it is because of that.

I make mistakes, we all do, I just note those that say one thing and do another.

As for making mistakes and learning from it, the first one is a learning experience, the second is incompetence, the third is stupidity.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#32 - 2017-02-07 14:23:16 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
As for making mistakes and learning from it, the first one is a learning experience, the second is incompetence, the third is stupidity.

And sometimes you have no control over the situation and it just happens (I.e. socket closed during pvp, or any bad timing really) Blink

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Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#33 - 2017-02-07 14:23:42 UTC
Pizza-burgers.

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#34 - 2017-02-07 14:59:27 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
As for making mistakes and learning from it, the first one is a learning experience, the second is incompetence, the third is stupidity.

And sometimes you have no control over the situation and it just happens (I.e. socket closed during pvp, or any bad timing really) Blink


Yeah that is a bummer, had it happen to me a few times.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#35 - 2017-02-07 15:15:07 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
As for making mistakes and learning from it, the first one is a learning experience, the second is incompetence, the third is stupidity.

And sometimes you have no control over the situation and it just happens (I.e. socket closed during pvp, or any bad timing really) Blink


Yeah that is a bummer, had it happen to me a few times.

And does that make you incompetent or stupid in any way?
Blink
If you want to talk about it ingame, I'm gmt--5 and usually on around 2100 EVE time

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#36 - 2017-02-07 15:25:17 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
As for making mistakes and learning from it, the first one is a learning experience, the second is incompetence, the third is stupidity.

And sometimes you have no control over the situation and it just happens (I.e. socket closed during pvp, or any bad timing really) Blink


Yeah that is a bummer, had it happen to me a few times.

And does that make you incompetent or stupid in any way?
Blink
If you want to talk about it ingame, I'm gmt--5 and usually on around 2100 EVE time


Neither, of course you could change your ISP etc., but sometimes that has no impact on it as many companies share the same infrastructure. Cool

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#37 - 2017-02-09 14:10:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Galaxy Pig
Whoa, we're at war? Shocked

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Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#38 - 2017-02-09 14:17:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Galaxy Pig
Dracvlad wrote:


I have pointed out for years that CODE is actually part of the Goons and people in CODE have tried to down play that in the forums, so I find your reply rather interesting. So you have confirmed what I always knew


Lmfao when do I get my socialized carrier?

Does this mean I have to start caring about who owns Deklein?

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Lucas Lucias
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#39 - 2017-02-10 07:33:13 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:


I have pointed out for years that CODE is actually part of the Goons and people in CODE have tried to down play that in the forums, so I find your reply rather interesting. So you have confirmed what I always knew


Lmfao when do I get my socialized carrier?

Does this mean I have to start caring about who owns Deklein?


Dracvlad has moved on to bigger and better things, so I will answer for him, though he has sent his cheery regards.

Can you get a carrier in hisec? I think too much cool aid has addled your brain, why would you want a carrier as you spend all your time blapping stuff in hisec.

No you should care about Delve, you are a bit behind on current affairs, your masters the Goons got knocked out of fortress Deklin with a whimper, they also reduced their funding to your failing alliance.

o7
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#40 - 2017-02-10 10:29:22 UTC
Reduced our funding?!??!?!?!?!?!?!? When did that happen???

I guess CODE. will fold soon...

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