EVE General Discussion

PVP can take a lot of time and much of that time can be very boring. ALign, warp, align, warp... (or maybe camp). There is little focus on what your time window is like because it is all people driven. When the battles end up ridiculously uneven, people run, therefore even more time is wasted. There is little fun in being in a 5-10 man fleet when you run up against a group of 50+. When you spend all night running around looking for a chance at a reasonable fight and you don't find one, that feels like a waste of time. Did I have fun? No. It is PVP that has a time issue attached to it that can seriously impact a player's desire to do it. I've been in huge fleets that were supposed to be a two hour roam that suddent dragged on for 3-6 hours because of time dilation. Was it fun? Sort of, but I ended up having to pay for it later (in terms of sleep usually, and some wife arggo).

Yeah, more fun for PVE please !

After F2P maybe its time to give more fun for PVE. The most boring mission in the world kills lots potetial players.

New player experience has succeed because it created a strong sense of immersion of a story line. CCP should invest more entertainment elements for PVE players. Why don't put AI audio interact into the PVE gameplay, jf people don't like mute it, at least there is a choise.

The sound is one of most important elements for a game. To compare other space games, perhaps EVE online has the worset sound effects and cheapest music ever. Of couse you can play your own music. I am just saying, EVE deserves better audio effects and backround music, CCP has treated it halfheartedly for years. It's time to change.

Please stop saying something like "don't like then quit... or EVE is not for you" more fun doesn't hurt.

EVE Online is a PVP game. It is not meant to have 'good' PVE, it is meant to have PVE that drives and facilitates PVP. Players that leave because the PVE isn't good enough were never going to stick around for the PVP anyway, which means EVE loses nothing when they leave, because the players that stay for the PVP stay for years. More than a decade even. That's why EVE, with its 'boring' PVE, has been around even longer than WoW.

But, you don't compare EVE to other games, not even other space games, because EVE isn't other games, it is the single most unique gaming experience available right now, with its player-driven single-server environment designed to foster to an incredibly dynamic socioeconomic second only to reality itself.

Now, you've been playing for all but about a few days, I would guess, which means, you might not really understand what EVE actually is just yet. You might be thinking it's something it isn't. I know I did when I was new. Stick around long enough, and you'll learn otherwise. If you want to leave because the missions aren't 'up to scratch', then it doesn't matter much at all to the game, but you'll never know what EVE really has to offer.

Which is your loss, not ours.

In this topic, the tired bandwagon against improvements to PvE. Be them more engaging mining and industry, better missions or just anything that doesn't reward a Killmail at the end.

Would it kill you if, for example, they took the Epic Arcs and expanded on them?

Imagine, a story driven PvE content taking place in NPC Nullsec. With the same character voice overs and objective based missions that are used in the New Player Experience.

But of course that will never happen because "muh peeveepee".

Yeah, more fun for PVE please !

After F2P maybe its time to give more fun for PVE. The most boring mission in the world kills lots potetial players.

New player experience has succeed because it created a strong sense of immersion of a story line. CCP should invest more entertainment elements for PVE players. Why don't put AI audio interact into the PVE gameplay, jf people don't like mute it, at least there is a choise.

The sound is one of most important elements for a game. To compare other space games, perhaps EVE online has the worset sound effects and cheapest music ever. Of couse you can play your own music. I am just saying, EVE deserves better audio effects and backround music, CCP has treated it halfheartedly for years. It's time to change.

Please stop saying something like "don't like then quit... or EVE is not for you" more fun doesn't hurt.

Further, I'd rather CCP apply their limited resources to improving other aspects of the game that encourage player-on-player interaction. Not the parts that let players completely disregard other players.

Heavens forbid if CCP does anything that benefits our individual entertainment when playing a video game.

Someone in this thread insisted that "EVE is a PVP game." Well, I know that you stop being 100% safe whenever you undock. But I avoid PVP fighting. I stay away from low-sec space. I like to mine and produce and sell things. Period. I have no interest in PVP fighting. So, for me, EVE is NOT a PVP game.

Play EVE the way you want to play it and don't let anyone else tell you otherwise. There's no stigma in playing solo or as part of a corporation, either. There are lots of players who are very social while playong on their own just as there are plenty of pilots who are part of a corporation and keep to themselves. There are also players that spend far too much time on these forums or Reddit when they should actually be playing EVE...

EVE isn't strictly a PvP game no matter how many diehards would like to tell you otherwise. There's fearsome battles to be had in fighting over the last remaining asteroid belt in high-sec... You also have to watch those market sharks with their cutthroat pricing schemes... And let's not forget the industry moguls and their scary mass production! PvE in all its various forms is what generates the majority of income in EVE and facilitates PvP. Mining, harvesting, production, trade, markets, ratting, missions and exploration are all PvE careers.

Yes, play however you want. But that does not change the nature of the game. If you will not shoot others, then you are going to be prey. That is just how it is going to be. Sooner or later somebody is going to come gunning for you, and you'll have to be ready for it.

To say, "It isn't a PvP game to me," okay...but for that guy that is going to shoot you it is and he doesn't care what you think the game is or is not. So be prepared to deal with that eventuality. Fit a tank, be aware, be ready to GTFO, etc.