Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You generally don't want all your reps hitting at the same time and sometimes not even on the same target.

that you are an idiot and need to learn how to do logistics


while there are times you want them all to cycle at once it is far more common that you don't


all i see this doing is confusing new players and making me spend 20min to an hour on each one why grouping guns = good but grouping reps = bad

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Solo logi in no way changes the fact that you will almost never use all reps at the same time. It's the kind of thing new pilots already do and it can be what kills the fleet. Running all of them at once is much harder on your cap and can result in over repping or not responding in time when the enemy switch targets

Good if you know what you are doing you have no issue pressing f1-f3 at the same time if you need that alpha rep. However even on frig and solo logi putting all your reps on at the same time can leave your target open (particularly with shields) I'm not sure why you seem to think these practices are some how specific to bigger fleets. No one is saying you should e neve cycle all your reps at once we are saying there are far fewer times that is the optimal choice

Gun grouping did nothing to rep effectiveness, and grouping reps would do nothing as well.

If your reps land on the same tick they're functionally identical to a single rep of the combined power already, just like eight grouped guns hitting at once are functionally identical to eight ungrouped guns hitting at once. The only thing that changed with the gun grouping update eight years ago was the damage our guns did to CCP's servers and network, since grouped guns send one command to the server instead of eight.

Also agreed with those pointing out that grouping reps is generally a bad move. The primary impact of something like this would be to create a newb-trap for newer logi pilots where a feature leads them down a non-optimal path that they then have to be walked back from. A game feature should never, if at all possible, intuitively lead to a bad result for the player.

In this case a newbie sees that you can group reps, groups them because hey that must be good, and then has to be taught to ungroup them in addition to things like staggering reps for maximum rep effectiveness, cap stability, ect.

Also whoever told you that gun grouping made reps less effective has a screw loose. The server runs on ticks, so everything that happens within a 1 second tick gets applied together, whether that's eight separate guns, 8 grouped guns, or guns and reps landing on the same target.