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It's like Eve, but with swords and stuff

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#1 - 2017-02-05 23:55:35 UTC
Interesting game but maybe a day late and a dollar short.

With any luck it'll have a better combat system than the other Conan-based MMO

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Sweet Adamas
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2017-02-06 00:47:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Sweet Adamas
It looks ok but only time will tell.

Can you play as a man or is it fat boobs only?
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2017-02-06 07:31:15 UTC
Sweet Adamas wrote:
It looks ok but only time will tell.

Can you play as a man or is it fat boobs only?


You can play as a man. There's pecs and dong sliders for men during character creation. You will start out completely naked and crucified, man or woman.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#4 - 2017-02-06 07:49:14 UTC
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#5 - 2017-02-07 00:13:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
I'm a huge Robert E. Howard fan, and I always wanted a sandbox MMO like Eve with a swords and castles setting. Too bad about the dong slider and the graphic gore gnarliness. I'm just squeamish I guess, can't see going full-MMO for it.

Edit: Herzog, your post reminded me to try a new Google search again after many months. o7 Anyone tried these two sandbox-ish swords and sandals MMOs?
Gloria Victis Seems and looks like a Mount & Blade-inspired sandbox. If so, excellent! But does it work?
Black Desert Online - Graphics look great, if nothing else.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#6 - 2017-02-07 09:08:33 UTC
I think that its enough multiplayer already to have some fun. I have nothing against dongs and breasts. For me it adds to barbarism.
You can also have slaves, but I see potential when you RP and dont use slaves for anything.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2017-02-07 09:58:15 UTC
Kergit, you are a fan of Robert E. Howard but you are also squeamish over all that savagery and barbarism? I mean, even Solomon Kane has some really gruesome stuff in there, and that's one of his tamer series.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#8 - 2017-02-07 11:09:42 UTC
Well, it look somewhat primitive in the gore dept. I mean, punching someone and he disjoints in half? Technology isnt there I would say. It looks unpolished.
Yiole Gionglao
#9 - 2017-02-07 14:34:13 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Well, it look somewhat primitive in the gore dept. I mean, punching someone and he disjoints in half? Technology isnt there I would say. It looks unpolished.


Well, it's oh-damn-we-ran-out-of-money-and-isn't-finished-yet "early access". It's a different way to die for games that didn't made it through development. What?

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an alpha / And so it's you

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#10 - 2017-02-07 14:44:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
I would be surprised if they would not make access in alpha for money. Funcom just hoped on the same wagon basically everybody else is riding right now, at least in construct and survive dept. Unpolished elements are here and there.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#11 - 2017-02-07 22:24:13 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Kergit, you are a fan of Robert E. Howard but you are also squeamish over all that savagery and barbarism? I mean, even Solomon Kane has some really gruesome stuff in there, and that's one of his tamer series.

Elmund, I'm a great fan of R.E.H.'s "the Pict fell with a yard of steel protruding from his back," "Conan's sword flashed and the guard's head leaped from his shoulders," etc. But somehow the Age of Conan MMO world seems... I don't know, more sadistic than R.E.H.'s. R.E.H.'s Hyborian Age world has lots of blood and gore, but they come out of men and monsters who deserved it, and who put up wicked fights. It’s full of rogues, thieves and all kinds of greedy curs, but there’s not much misery or suffering on, it’s a pretty fun world. It just that R.E.H.’s heroes go out looking for gudfights and "great gouts of black blood.”

But with AOC, it’s like the whole Hyborian Age is one continuously nasty place, with cruelty, torture, and gnarliness going on everywhere you look. Kind of a gratuitous gnarliness game world, not like R.E.H.’s Hyborian Age. Disappointing to me, I really wanted to like AOC.

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#12 - 2017-02-07 23:54:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
This is why I liked to summon a chicken or a cat and walk in the Conarch Village with shovel while emoting and greeting strangers. I really wanted to make it more life-like.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#13 - 2017-02-08 05:32:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Heresy. Blasphemy. Ignorance and philistinism. Gone all backwards, stupid, and insipid. Why you do that Funcom? Why you do that controllers of Robert E. Howard estate? Such a waste.... Crying shame.... It all started with that horrible Arnold Dino de Laurentis cheesy Conan movie. Yes, it was horrible cheesy and a dishonor to the writer and the character. Dino, maker of bombastic 70s disaster movies. King Kong featuring Jessica Lange (ruined her career, she was a good actress but bye bye after the sitting in giant plastic Kong hand prop), Arnold and James Earl Jones as Thoth Amon (way, way too much screen time for a minor character)...

What a waste, a waste, a travesty.... Worst of all is a whole generation met Conan of Cimmeria through that bunk, and the sequel. Missed the original writing, or even the comics illustrated adaptations. And then the next-gen Funcom meme-ing....

RIP
Robert E. Howard
H.P. Lovecraft
Other crazy talented weirdos who dreamt up weird tales and told them in words, back in the day. Shame be on who makes them into licensed properties, and not faithful to the original creators.
Yiole Gionglao
#14 - 2017-02-08 07:55:35 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Kergit, you are a fan of Robert E. Howard but you are also squeamish over all that savagery and barbarism? I mean, even Solomon Kane has some really gruesome stuff in there, and that's one of his tamer series.

Elmund, I'm a great fan of R.E.H.'s "the Pict fell with a yard of steel protruding from his back," "Conan's sword flashed and the guard's head leaped from his shoulders," etc. But somehow the Age of Conan MMO world seems... I don't know, more sadistic than R.E.H.'s. R.E.H.'s Hyborian Age world has lots of blood and gore, but they come out of men and monsters who deserved it, and who put up wicked fights. It’s full of rogues, thieves and all kinds of greedy curs, but there’s not much misery or suffering on, it’s a pretty fun world. It just that R.E.H.’s heroes go out looking for gudfights and "great gouts of black blood.”

But with AOC, it’s like the whole Hyborian Age is one continuously nasty place, with cruelty, torture, and gnarliness going on everywhere you look. Kind of a gratuitous gnarliness game world, not like R.E.H.’s Hyborian Age. Disappointing to me, I really wanted to like AOC.



One of the thigns I hated abut AoC was the fact that, since it had level-gated maps, one had to fight its way continuously to do everything. Go to pick A... kill three mobs... pick A and go back to the city... kill the same three mobs again... over and over and over again. Traveling the map was literally a struggle, and it grew old very soon. What?

Knowing that Funcom did exactly the same with The Secret World (just even more boring), I'm just passing on Exiles. Certainly not paying 30 eypo just to see some boobs juggle around between killing mob #1457 and mob #1458...

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an alpha / And so it's you

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#15 - 2017-02-08 08:54:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
I always have seen Conan books as rather unsophisticated kind of fun. Some revievers in my country even call this kind of literature, a S&S literature, but they refer to it as in: "Sword & Shlong".

I dont have anything against all those things people make to sell more Conan. Howard might have been a nutter personally, and his books might have been the toilet grade paper books in his times, but he knew what kind of fun sells things. I think Howard always wanted to express his urges to show life from this more savage, more primal and sexy side, and it sells by the way. Too bad not everyone can be a hero, until you have a game about hero, not only about his world. Dealing justice by administering heavy blows around to save opressed princesses. Like a Cimmerian Mario!

Its'a me, barbarian!Cool

BTW, Basil Poledouris soundtrack decapitates.
Yiole Gionglao
#16 - 2017-02-08 14:48:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Yiole Gionglao
Nana Skalski wrote:
I always have seen Conan books as rather unsophisticated kind of fun. Some revievers in my country even call this kind of literature, a S&S literature, but they refer to it as in: "Sword & Shlong".

I dont have anything against all those things people make to sell more Conan. Howard might have been a nutter personally, and his books might have been the toilet grade paper books in his times, but he knew what kind of fun sells things. I think Howard always wanted to express his urges to show life from this more savage, more primal and sexy side, and it sells by the way. Too bad not everyone can be a hero, until you have a game about hero, not only about his world. Dealing justice by administering heavy blows around to save opressed princesses. Like a Cimmerian Mario!

Its'a me, barbarian!Cool

BTW, Basil Poledouris soundtrack decapitates.


Fantasy is usually funnier than reality. Think of American Western myths. The lone WASP cowboy, smartly dressed in a Stetson hat and imparting justice from the barrel of a six-shooter... not exactly the same as the actual cowboys: 20-raced, STD ridden, bowler-hat wearing hobos who learned their job and name form Mexican vaqueros and who wouldn't use a six-shooter instead of a shotgun or rifle unless they were desperate -and were out of a town since carrying firearms was forbidden, btw.

Yeah. Totally Outlaws.

(Which was a nice yet underrated game back in 1997... I still owe my copy and its box. The memories...)

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an alpha / And so it's you

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2017-02-09 02:47:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Yiole Gionglao wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
I always have seen Conan books as rather unsophisticated kind of fun. Some revievers in my country even call this kind of literature, a S&S literature, but they refer to it as in: "Sword & Shlong".

I dont have anything against all those things people make to sell more Conan. Howard might have been a nutter personally, and his books might have been the toilet grade paper books in his times, but he knew what kind of fun sells things. I think Howard always wanted to express his urges to show life from this more savage, more primal and sexy side, and it sells by the way. Too bad not everyone can be a hero, until you have a game about hero, not only about his world. Dealing justice by administering heavy blows around to save opressed princesses. Like a Cimmerian Mario!

Its'a me, barbarian!Cool

BTW, Basil Poledouris soundtrack decapitates.


Fantasy is usually funnier than reality. Think of American Western myths. The lone WASP cowboy, smartly dressed in a Stetson hat and imparting justice from the barrel of a six-shooter... not exactly the same as the actual cowboys: 20-raced, STD ridden, bowler-hat wearing hobos who learned their job and name form Mexican vaqueros and who wouldn't use a six-shooter instead of a shotgun or rifle unless they were desperate -and were out of a town since carrying firearms was forbidden, btw.

Yeah. Totally Outlaws.

(Which was a nice yet underrated game back in 1997... I still owe my copy and its box. The memories...)


So far, the only Fantasy fiction I do not fantasize about (as in, I absolute don't want to live in it) is Warhammer Fantasy (RIP). Goodness me. Randomly getting abducted by skaven or cultists and become Chaos God junk food? Not fun man. Even if I end up in Warhammer Fantasy setting as Karl Franz I will not be having fun.

Goddamn Imperial politics and Northmen.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2017-02-09 08:52:05 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Heresy. Blasphemy. Ignorance and philistinism. Gone all backwards, stupid, and insipid. Why you do that Funcom? Why you do that controllers of Robert E. Howard estate? Such a waste.... Crying shame.... It all started with that horrible Arnold Dino de Laurentis cheesy Conan movie. Yes, it was horrible cheesy and a dishonor to the writer and the character. Dino, maker of bombastic 70s disaster movies. King Kong featuring Jessica Lange (ruined her career, she was a good actress but bye bye after the sitting in giant plastic Kong hand prop), Arnold and James Earl Jones as Thoth Amon (way, way too much screen time for a minor character)...

What a waste, a waste, a travesty.... Worst of all is a whole generation met Conan of Cimmeria through that bunk, and the sequel. Missed the original writing, or even the comics illustrated adaptations. And then the next-gen Funcom meme-ing....

RIP
Robert E. Howard
H.P. Lovecraft
Other crazy talented weirdos who dreamt up weird tales and told them in words, back in the day. Shame be on who makes them into licensed properties, and not faithful to the original creators.


I don't know man. The old Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth was a good, albeit buggy-as-all-hell game that was very Lovecraftian in every way. The up and coming Call of Cthulhu game looks like it just might nail the Lovecraftian Horror factor.

Besides, we already have other games that do get what Lovecraft is about. Darkest Dungeon and Bloodborne being the ones I could think off right off the bat. We might just be seeing a Cosmic Horror Renaissance here.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#19 - 2017-02-09 17:20:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Yeah, I'd agree, the Lovecraft games seem to nail the Cthulhu mythos. Many movies have too.

Nana, oh yes Howard was kind of a nutter. From some of his letters to other writers, it seems that he wasn't quite sure that Conan wasn't real. He says the stories just came to him as if he were channeling a Conan entity, and he had to write them down as fast as he could. He also said that he didn't know what happened to Conan after the last story, when the character was about 60 years old I think. "He just disappears." Pretty strange. There's a movie about Howard and this stuff called The Whole Wide World.

R.E.H.'s stories are mostly about people with too much testosterone beating down other people/creatures with too much testosterone. But there's a kind of sophisticated arcane metaphysical world order and cultural aesthetic behind them too. (The story The Tower of the Elephant is a good example). There are subtleties and weirdnesses, and Conan is a barbarian whose strategy is to ignore them as best he can and brawl his way through them.

That's my objection to the Conan movies and AOC. The focus just on the muscles and the brawling, and made Conan's world just a World Wrestling Federation with swords. (Marvel Comics didn't help either by putting Conan in just boots and a Speedo-- a visual meme that perma-embedded now. Conan actually wears armor, kaftans, furs, silk or whatever he happens to have). They don't have enough weirdness in them.

-K. Deserters, Conan otaku/ranter
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#20 - 2017-02-09 19:34:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Yes I have seen the movies, all of them about Conan, even this recent one, Yes I have read original stories and those continuations by various other authors.

The movies. I really like the first one with Governator, despite it being such a wild outtake from original stories. The visuals and music are beatiful, and story is like an original take on "what indeed have happened to Conan, not those myths by Howard". It does have impact, all of it, despite lack of all those lore things and details. It does have a strong message and strong opponent for Conan, its like battle of night and day. Thulsa is really good at being cunning and evil, is very intelligent. Conan is really good at being brutal and is representing justice in its more crude, uncivilized form, a barbaric revenge. Such is a cinematic medium and here it was fully exploited what had to be. Its full of strong archetypes, brutal and honest. In Conan stories its not an intelleigence and civilization that is winning at the end. Its strength of will and human urges. This is prevalent even in the hyborian history piece writen by Howard.

You can see that Conan sits on the throne in the end of that first movie. I think this little teaser will result in the last Conan in the series. Not the second. There is one more film that will be made.
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