EVE General Discussion

Ohh you want a safe space eh?
That space is a myth, you should probably stop playing now before you get disappointed further...

I always taunt code to come and get me, never any responses.

sO bite me and see below

It certainly seems possible sometimes.

They seem pretty happy with it.

That seems fairly obvious to anyone not invested in being angry.

Brother... /sigh

Brother, the odds are fantastic that OP is CODE. And you're going all in on explaining how stupid and insular CODE is, and how the thread is in general, probably low-grade troll bait.

No ****.

But here you are. Unable to help yourself. Responding. Feeding. Being invested enough to explain how uninvested you are. You're desperate to explain in the light of reason how not desperate you are. You want to be the dagger of logic in a thread of monkeyshine.

And CODE doesn't "always win"... Unless you measure having fun. They have fun all the time.

Like you could be.

If you were less "not mad".

No, the Code really does always win. If you set out to serve as a player-driven source of risk and to generate content in highsec, you win regardless of whether you lose a particular engagement or fail in an attempted action. And that is not to mention the win of the entertainment value of it all.

The magic of the Code is that it is a document designed to create player interactions and to shape the face of highsec and it does that by its very existence. Players have had to adapt their game play, or perhaps they just explode and have their gameplay adapted for them, because a small group of players have taken up the mantle of serving as agents of risk in the safest space in the game. It gives meaning to player actions, and applies pressure on the players residing in highsec weeding out the dullest, laziest and greediest of the bunch. It makes highsec into a bit more of the game CCP envisioned, instead of the no risk or no challenge push-button/receive-bacon farmfest it was fast becoming 5 years ago. That vision of highsec barely even qualifies as a game, and certainly not one worthy of a game like Eve Online. Highsec still has serious problems, but it is much better now under the care of the New Order than the empty-of-conflict carebear paradise certain game changes had put it on a course for.

The great irony of this all is, that despite all the teeth-gnashing and whining about the Code that goes on, the New Halaima Code of Conduct is the distilled essence of Eve Online and thus how CCP intends for the game to work. CCP has purposely put criminals into the game to keep players in highsec at risk to other players. If you want a religious analogue, it's like James 315 channeled and interpreted the ideas of the almighty creator (CCP in this case) into an easy to read document to guide players to play the intended game.

This is why the Code can never lose. Unless Eve Online is sold and the new development team throws out the original design documents completely thus Trammelizing the game, the people who uphold the Code are blessed by CCP and are doing the creator's work. Whether a Knight of the New Order succeeds at exploding you, or just their very presence forces you to take protective actions, the Code has impacted your game as CCP intends, and this contributes to emergence and your connection to the living universe of New Eden. Eve Online is not a single player game, nor is it one with a "safe space". That fact is manifested and enabled by the Code.

What the uninitiated and naive Eve player cannot seem to understand, or maybe just are unable to accept, is that the Code is an idea more than a real organization, and you can't kill an idea. Sure there is James 315 and his blog which serve as a banner to rally around, and there is a useful SRP as part of that for new/poor players to join in the fun, but all that could go away tomorrow and yet carebears would still be exploding left and right in highsec as CCP intends. Players, not NPCs, are suppose to serve as the aggressors in this game (and to provide the content), and highsec is not immune from that. The Code is the embodiment of that idea. Something happening in highsec is better than nothing happening in highsec, and this is one of the core ideas and aims of the New Order and its Code.

You can't stop the signal, at least as long as CCP stays true to their original vision of the game. This is why the Code always wins. Always.

So why don't you go and play one of the many thousands of the other "nanny" games you hypocritical piece of useless carbon?? There are countless games with no pvp that you can farm digital pixels until you drown in your own boring existence. Why do you want to come to the only game that doesn't cater to your sensitive feelings and want to ruin the only actual game with any real sense of loss and danger?

The market has fuking spoken and guess what, after 13 years this game is still up and running with a healthy and an extremely loyal player base, more than most games out there, and this isn't even a triple AAA game.

And nobody is saying no to change, as long as it is good change, a change that doesnt go against everything the game stands for. How typical that you speak of blinders when it was linked multiple times in this thread how the developers themselves agree and encourage the behavior of the so called "bullies".

Blimey, getting a bit dramatic there, Clockwork.

My problem is not with game mechanics, or that Code are allowed to do what they want. It's more to do with the people in it, and then the people that give them credence as a thing to be worried about.

It's like people that have a problem with the police - it shouldn't be "the police" you have a problem with, but individual policemen.

You can imply I'm not having fun, or getting mad, or "triggered", or whatever the latest tiresome inane phrase that young people say these days happens to be. I do play the way I want. I do have fun. "The Code" doesn't bother me. People like OP bother me. People that say they are saving Hisec by sploding miners bother me, cos they are about as connected to reality as Trump (well, not that any of us are connected to reality when discussing a computer game, but there you go). Yes, sometimes I post my opinion in a forum. Sometimes people come into the same forum to post that it is their opinion that my opinion isn't valid. This also doesn't bother me, but I do like a good discussion.

Why can't people that defend Code see that I'm not advocating banning PvP, or saying Eve is dying, or any of the other tired old rhetoric that inevitably gets spouted in these threads. Just want people to be honest about why they pick on easy targets.

So tell me about all the years you've developed a successful MMO.
I would further argue that changing the game to a more carebearish type is exactly what would doom EvE. You'll hemorrhage veterans who hate the new design, and you might not attract new players anyway since you're now space MMO #3472.