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PSA: Malfunctioning Stargates

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Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#1 - 2017-02-05 04:32:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
Apparently there's a "glitch" where stargates can malfunction and become inactive (not due to high node population in the destination system). If you should happen upon one alomg with numerous ships adrift...

a) It is considered bad form to warp scramble and web them.
b) It is definitely bad form to bat-dial your team mates to get in on the action.
c) It is absolutely, positively bad form to drop a cyno.
d) It is probably nothing short of evil to exploit this to your advantage by looting, pilaging and killing - but should you choose to accept your mission, an unannounced 7-day vacation may be in your future.

Remember that good samaritans are indistinguishable from those running amok, and the old adage of the crow applies: "Fly with the crow - get shot with the crow."

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Wanda Fayne
#2 - 2017-02-05 04:42:44 UTC
nice skirt, and the PSA is warranted.

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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2017-02-05 07:50:28 UTC
Was reading this on reddit the other day. It would be helpful if CCP added this to the list of exploits and give an official notification that killing ships suffering from a malfunctioning gate gets you a ban. Ugh

I'm my own NPC alt.
2Sonas1Cup
#4 - 2017-02-05 07:58:59 UTC  |  Edited by: 2Sonas1Cup
Tipa Riot wrote:
Was reading this on reddit the other day. It would be helpful if CCP added this to the list of exploits and give an official notification that killing ships suffering from a malfunctioning gate gets you a ban. Ugh


So you want to ban a players account because he killed a ship?

Just when I thought this community couldn't get any worse.
No wonder this game is **** nowadays.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2017-02-05 08:20:40 UTC
While the whiny rage quit over a 7 day timeout we saw earlier was completely unwarranted, this is still a bit of a problem. Are we supposed to check if the gate actually works first every time we engage in combat now?
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#6 - 2017-02-05 08:37:11 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
While the whiny rage quit over a 7 day timeout we saw earlier was completely unwarranted, this is still a bit of a problem. Are we supposed to check if the gate actually works first every time we engage in combat now?

No.

Kill first. Check after.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#7 - 2017-02-05 09:25:38 UTC
Maybe I should add reimbursements to the list of things that should be removed from the game.

Remove standings and insurance.
Mr Mieyli
Doomheim
#8 - 2017-02-05 10:24:03 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Neuntausend wrote:
While the whiny rage quit over a 7 day timeout we saw earlier was completely unwarranted, this is still a bit of a problem. Are we supposed to check if the gate actually works first every time we engage in combat now?

No.

Kill first. Banned after.


FTFY

There isn't even a way to check a gate works without jumping it, and there's plenty of valid gameplay reasons why you might not want to jump a gate.

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#9 - 2017-02-05 10:33:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Mr Mieyli wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Neuntausend wrote:
While the whiny rage quit over a 7 day timeout we saw earlier was completely unwarranted, this is still a bit of a problem. Are we supposed to check if the gate actually works first every time we engage in combat now?

No.

Kill first. Banned after.


FTFY

There isn't even a way to check a gate works without jumping it, and there's plenty of valid gameplay reasons why you might not want to jump a gate.

So far there's no explanation of why this would lead to a ban.

Edit: Ah Tipa's post below explains it. Ah well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, I'd be banned. I wouldn't care if the gate worked or not. It's still kill first. Check after.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2017-02-05 10:33:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
2Sonas1Cup wrote:
Tipa Riot wrote:
Was reading this on reddit the other day. It would be helpful if CCP added this to the list of exploits and give an official notification that killing ships suffering from a malfunctioning gate gets you a ban. Ugh


So you want to ban a players account because he killed a ship?

Just when I thought this community couldn't get any worse.
No wonder this game is **** nowadays.

Train your reading comprehension to level 2 at least. I do not want anything, but CCP actually bans people doing that without proper exploit notification, source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/5rvqm8/getting_a_7_day_ban_because_i_tried_to_help_my/

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Max Fubarticus
K Diamond Holding LTD.
Bullets Bombs and Blondes
#11 - 2017-02-05 13:39:22 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Was reading this on reddit the other day. It would be helpful if CCP added this to the list of exploits and give an official notification that killing ships suffering from a malfunctioning gate gets you a ban. Ugh


Exactly!
How they arrive at the conclusion that this is an exploit is beyond me. It is more like exposing a flaw. CCP needs to give us a "Your s*#% is broke" hotkey. BIAB having epileptic seizures during game play is not helpful.

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ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#12 - 2017-02-05 15:00:59 UTC
Moved to Issues and Workarounds.

PSA: The your stuff is broke button is F12 Bug Report.

ISD Max Trix

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#13 - 2017-02-05 16:45:34 UTC
Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#14 - 2017-02-05 16:47:33 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
You mean I can get locked out in some dead end system? Seems like a very bad bug. What?

Apparently, yes.

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mkint
#15 - 2017-02-05 17:03:32 UTC
ISD Max Trix wrote:
Moved to Issues and Workarounds.

PSA: The your stuff is broke button is F12 Bug Report.

And apparently this really is something they want to keep hidden. Secret surprise bans for everybody!

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2017-02-05 17:34:27 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
You mean I can get locked out in some dead end system? Seems like a very bad bug. What?

You can typically jump later. But in a PvP situation, you often have to make decisions quickly. Warp off if you are not pointed. If you are, jump the gate. If you can't, die in a fire.

But apparently now the attacker is supposed to ... let you pass if the gate is not functioning for whatever reason?
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#17 - 2017-02-05 17:45:35 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
You mean I can get locked out in some dead end system? Seems like a very bad bug. What?

You can typically jump later. But in a PvP situation, you often have to make decisions quickly. Warp off if you are not pointed. If you are, jump the gate. If you can't, die in a fire.

But apparently now the attacker is supposed to ... let you pass if the gate is not functioning for whatever reason?

Good thing I dont shoot other people. I will never have this kind of ban. \o/

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Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#18 - 2017-02-05 17:52:22 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
You can typically jump later. But in a PvP situation, you often have to make decisions quickly. Warp off if you are not pointed. If you are, jump the gate. If you can't, die in a fire.

But apparently now the attacker is supposed to ... let you pass if the gate is not functioning for whatever reason?

Because it's the right thing to do... Roll

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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2017-02-05 20:20:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Elenahina
My question is - if I haven't tried the gate, how do I know if it's working before I shoot you? I mean...this really could put a damper on PvP - especially in nullsec, since most of the PVP there tends to happen on gates.

I mean, I get it, CCP doesn't want people dying when they have no opportunity to do anything at all (even if that anything is just escaping through a gate) but as the attacker, it's not my job to make sure the guy I'm shooting is present and accounted for before I zap him. For all I know he could be AFK.

This is an extremely troubling stance for CCP to take.

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Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#20 - 2017-02-05 20:28:05 UTC
These are all good questions and excellent points. Caveat jaculator.

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