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Looking for advice on a dual career path with mining
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Vanessa Celtis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2017-02-04 21:42:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Vanessa Celtis
Pestilen Ratte wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
I would recommend violence.
Vague, I know, but ideally something that brews up a skillset that will aid you eventually in defending your bits and pieces.
Mission running or combat sites wouldn't be a bad choice, perhaps dabble in some low sec frigate pvp on the cheap.
This would help give you a vastly different activity choice to engage in when you don't feel like mining, and will help you be ready for that eventuality of having to run, fight or die for the things you have.
Some experience and a solid set of skills can make the run or fight outcomes more likely than the last one.
Get scary!


this is VERY bad advice.

If you want to do pvp, understand that eve is an "N+1" fleet game. In other words, N +1 ships will beat N ships. There is no "invincible pwnmobile" that you can fly around in as a solo pilot and be Very Dangerous to everyone with impunity. T3 cruisers, orthrus and Svipul used to be close to this ideal, and every now and then CCP will release another for the bucks it brings, but generally speaking Eve is N+1 and violence is gang violence.

You don't need skills. You just need NUMBERS. If you want to win at Eve PVP, join a bigger blob. That's it. join the biggest gang, be the Very Dangerous pilot you always dreamed of being.

How can I put this? You are not a knight in shining armour, riding into battle on a clean white horse, with fine ladies watching your bravery.

On the contrary, you are a slightly ******** child with severe social disfunction, and you will use a short and blunt little knife to stab a crippled old lady in the eyes until she stops streaming and dies of slow blood loss. You will share in the glory with many of your kind, and gang of ******** imps who flock from haunt to haunt, consuming the weak in a frenzy of ********, demented consumption.

This is NOT a criticism of Eve. It is rather a ringing endorsement of it. No other game offers such a spectacle as New Eden. if you want a walk in the human zoo, you are in for a real treat. The people who make this game absolutely despise their customer base, and with good reason. You should see the mechanics they have devised as incentives for these people (the Very Dangerous pilots). Talk about a not very subtle slap in the face.

And the graphics are amazing.


That is an interesting analysis. I think it's partially true because you forget the random effect in a fight. Your opponent may have a ship which does not match your power, or the other way around. A single player can waporize an unorganized fleet thank to randomness in encounters where your ship is just faster for the situation, or better equipped. The secret is to quickly assess what fight to engage and which to run away from. That is hard to learn.
Triss Tellagen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2017-02-05 07:34:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Triss Tellagen
Culamity Paiute wrote:
I used to play Eve a long time ago when it first came out, but I might as well be new to the game it has been so long.
I am one of those few people who enjoys mining to an extent. I would like to use mining in conjunction with something else player related. Do I get into building? Trading? What other career paths work well with mining?
Any advice is appreciated. Thank you

Culamity


Mining goes well with datacore research. If you can find a corporation that has both R&D and mining agents you can use your mining to gain access to the lvl 4 R&D agents.

If a corporation has both a Mining Agent and Storyline agent in the same solar system (there is usually at least 1 such coincidence per corporation) then I'll try to do the mining missions for that agent until I get the storyline agent mission. Successful completion of the storyline mission can unlock lvl 4 agents very fast.

edit: I would also recommend against PVP for the simple fact you can get a bounty on your miner. It's better to equip an alt using the gear/profits from your miner.
Malcorath Sacerdos
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2017-02-05 13:44:47 UTC
if you wanna get into everything life in new eden has to offer (exept sov mechanics thank god) id go join a WH corp..
Salvos Rhoska
#24 - 2017-02-05 15:29:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Tisiphone Dira wrote:
Culamity Paiute

You stand accused of engaging in criminal activities:
- Conspiracy to commit theft of minerals that do not belong to you
- Glorification of subversive behaviors (mining) that are contrary to common decency and that undermine community cohesion
- Not having a valid license for your spaceship

How do you plead?

No career goes well with a life of crime. I suggest you get right with the law.


False on every point.

-Mining is not a crime
-The minerals belong to those that take them.
-Mining is necessary for the continuity of EVEs economy and community.
-The only license a spaceship needs, is a sub.

Destroying ships in HS without CONCORD compliance, is a crime.
I suggest you get right with the law.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
2Sonas1Cup
#25 - 2017-02-05 15:50:20 UTC
Mining and ganking other miners to take them out of competition.
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