EVE General Discussion

The only interaction I've had with code was calling them a support group for bullied kids needing an emotional outlet, to which they just resorted to calling me thier go to insult, a carebear miner

The fact that you are mining in an "overtanked" mack means they are already winning. Back in the day all you saw was max efficiency hulks. You can talk about their emotions and bullying all day, but they definitely left their mark in high sec.

Uhmm are you a troll? "Ganking is immoral"? You know you are playing a game primarily based on non-concencual PvP right? And a ragtag of nerds (as emotionally unstable as they are) even slightly changing the area where 90% of the playbase reside, which also has the biggest restrictions for player created content, is nothing to sniff at.

Forcing a whole group of low interacting players to change their whole playstyle is relavent.

" because you can have a lot of them Macks in High sec, whole fleets mining" takes the cake.

Infamy. We talk about them. Highsec miners who talk also do. The op made a thread, like many others. For many players CODE is the first player-driven organization they ever hear about. Some would say this does worth more than ISK - if not directly translates into it.

Morality in this context sounds a lot more irrelevant to me than CODE.

Haven't seen code self-advertisement through alts for like ... couple weeks? You guys feeling lonely

Indeed. I heard about Goons years before I even first considered trying EvE. I did read about PL around the days I have joined. Umm, hearing about TESCO for the first time, besides doing my shopping there.

But I'm not a good baseline for drawing conclusions about a general player populace, as I do a lot of reading, research and such before comitting to games even far simpler than EvE, not to mention that old and infamous space-epic. Let me risk neither are you, based on by the tiny slice of your activity I have seen so far. But I didn't mean corps you read about in the news or see in videos. I mean corps that someone without prior knowledge actually -hears- about ingame.

Maybe it would be wrong to assume that most new players just see a flashy spaceship game, or a new F2P title on Steam and jump in, but I carefully avoid assumptions about 'most new players', thus I picked words like 'many new players'. Because I can back any of my claims about the latter.

I listen to people in local of the newbro-systems, Rookie Help and in some voice-channels where random people get invited en-masse. And I yet to see the Swarm or the Legion mentioned there. Yet CODE-warnings often pop up, especially when someone asks mining related questions.


Dang, did I just bite the bait? Ya space-immortals and yer customs 'round here..

The real problem here is that something like code is still possible....

Gankers of any kind should face 500k damage at the second of the first shot in high and their and their possible preys wrecks should set "out of buisness" for anyone except the prey.....the prey may freely took what he wants as compensation....but touch them(with an alt as it is done now) as not involved or the criminal himself and also face 500k damage...and on and on and on...as long as they get it....could take a while 'til they get the message i guess....

TEST ALLIANCE BEST ALLIANCE! and CO2 were recently fighting together against PL and their fights made some news around christmas time and new year. There were couple of really big battles. You will hear about them more. They are in the south now, and Goons are there also.

I don't care about those tiny explantions "why ganking is good for the game".....

I've heard them all and i give a dam.....

PVP ist still possible if you have to ACCEPT it first like done in the duel option...the software code is there just a slight change has to be made...

All this gibbering about "EVE is a pvp game and would change to the core if something is done against ganking(not pvp,hear what i say this is just about ganking in highsec)" is pure nonsense.

The gankers disturb MY game and that's all that counts....
I don't care about THEIR game,it simply does not interest me....

And yes..this is the same gibbering THEY do every time an anti gank wall is discussed whereever....

PVE: "i want to fly safe"
PVP: "That's impossible,MY game would be changed to the core"
PVE: "but you can do......
PVP: "Impossible,EVE is a PVP game"
PVE: "but....
PVP: "Impossible,that is MY game,go away carebear"

This is how a "discussion" about this theme goes....

Change is bad.....

again i understand why some would be drawn towards the idea of 100% sefety in hs. i would urge you to think one or two steps further than your own risk avertion. imagine what would happen to the market if hs would be 100% safe.
If war deccs was the only way of fighting in hs what would happen then to the small time solo player?
HS is damaged as it is with the level of wardecks going around. Ppl are isk fat and perpetual wardecks is a thing. if you want to strike a blow for improved security in HS start advocating for wardecks to be more expensive. If you have your way small corps will be obliterated as hs gankers turn to wardeccing and citadel hunting istead. Your only option is staying in NPC corporations or joining an existing mega corp.. and thus you kill of any chance a newbro has of stating a small corp and building it up from the ground congrats you just killed off another important funtion of HS in your persuit of life in a NPC corp without risk ...


and then we have the market. the large alliances and corporation who are strong enugh to survive in the 100% gank free HS of yours would have virtual monopoly on HS minerals and good mission running stations ..