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Thank you CODE!

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Fek Mercer
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2017-01-30 03:28:09 UTC
The only interaction I've had with code was calling them a support group for bullied kids needing an emotional outlet, to which they just resorted to calling me thier go to insult, a carebear miner
Qwerty Ernaga
Doomheim
#22 - 2017-01-30 10:17:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Qwerty Ernaga
My in-game friend used to be a miner like me. Then he got really angry about some other miners. He joined CODE and started ganking miners. Within a month he left the game. I knew that would happen. He was just burned out and emotionally unstable at the time.

I guess some people are permanently emotionally unstable.

But thanks CODE for failing with several attempts on my overtanked mack. It provided me with fun once in a while, change of scenery helps. Smile
Bait Carebear
KiDoN Corporation
#23 - 2017-02-01 07:43:40 UTC
Qwerty Ernaga wrote:
My in-game friend used to be a miner like me. Then he got really angry about some other miners. He joined CODE and started ganking miners. Within a month he left the game. I knew that would happen. He was just burned out and emotionally unstable at the time.

I guess some people are permanently emotionally unstable.

But thanks CODE for failing with several attempts on my overtanked mack. It provided me with fun once in a while, change of scenery helps. Smile


The fact that you are mining in an "overtanked" mack means they are already winning. Back in the day all you saw was max efficiency hulks. You can talk about their emotions and bullying all day, but they definitely left their mark in high sec.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#24 - 2017-02-01 08:08:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Bait Carebear wrote:
Qwerty Ernaga wrote:
My in-game friend used to be a miner like me. Then he got really angry about some other miners. He joined CODE and started ganking miners. Within a month he left the game. I knew that would happen. He was just burned out and emotionally unstable at the time.

I guess some people are permanently emotionally unstable.

But thanks CODE for failing with several attempts on my overtanked mack. It provided me with fun once in a while, change of scenery helps. Smile


The fact that you are mining in an "overtanked" mack means they are already winning. Back in the day all you saw was max efficiency hulks. You can talk about their emotions and bullying all day, but they definitely left their mark in high sec.

You fall victim of CODE propaganda. He kept his macks, so its a win for him, and gankers lost their ganking tools, so what they earned? Moral victory? Would need them being moral people, the act of ganking is immoral by definition. Violent behavior against completely legal high sec mining operative. They got nothing. I see CODE propaganda mainly being an internal thing, to keep people believing they are still relevant, when they are not.

Forcing people to mine in slightly less efficient way isnt so relevant as it may seem, because you can have a lot of them Macks in High sec, whole fleets mining.
Bait Carebear
KiDoN Corporation
#25 - 2017-02-01 08:21:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Bait Carebear
Nana Skalski wrote:

You fall victim of CODE propaganda. He kept his macks, so its a win for him, and gankers lost their ganking tools, so what they earned? Moral victory? Would need them being moral people, the act of ganking is immoral by definition. Violent behavior against completely legal high sec mining operative. They got nothing. I see CODE propaganda mainly being an internal thing, to keep people believing they are still relevant, when they are not.

Forcing people to mine in slightly less efficient way isnt so relevant as it may seem, because you can have a lot of them Macks in High sec, whole fleets mining.


Uhmm are you a troll? "Ganking is immoral"? You know you are playing a game primarily based on non-concencual PvP right? And a ragtag of nerds (as emotionally unstable as they are) even slightly changing the area where 90% of the playbase reside, which also has the biggest restrictions for player created content, is nothing to sniff at.

Forcing a whole group of low interacting players to change their whole playstyle is relavent.

" because you can have a lot of them Macks in High sec, whole fleets mining" takes the cake.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#26 - 2017-02-01 08:34:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Bait Carebear wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:

You fall victim of CODE propaganda. He kept his macks, so its a win for him, and gankers lost their ganking tools, so what they earned? Moral victory? Would need them being moral people, the act of ganking is immoral by definition. Violent behavior against completely legal high sec mining operative. They got nothing. I see CODE propaganda mainly being an internal thing, to keep people believing they are still relevant, when they are not.

Forcing people to mine in slightly less efficient way isnt so relevant as it may seem, because you can have a lot of them Macks in High sec, whole fleets mining.


Uhmm are you a troll? "Ganking is immoral"? You know you are playing a game primarily based on non-concencual PvP right? And a ragtag of nerds (as emotionally unstable as they are) even slightly changing the area where 90% of the playbase reside, which also has the biggest restrictions for player created content, is nothing to sniff at.

Forcing a whole group of low interacting players to change their whole playstyle is relavent.

" because you can have a lot of them Macks in High sec, whole fleets mining" takes the cake.

You must be troll to question CODE immoral nature. Their acts are outlawed by CONCORD. So its out of discussion.

And mining isnt all in high sec, there are fleets of mining ships everywhere, mining unbothered. I take the cake. You can have crumbles. P
Yebo Lakatosh
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2017-02-01 09:34:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Yebo Lakatosh
Nana Skalski wrote:
what they earned? Moral victory?

Infamy. We talk about them. Highsec miners who talk also do. The op made a thread, like many others. For many players CODE is the first player-driven organization they ever hear about. Some would say this does worth more than ISK - if not directly translates into it.

Morality in this context sounds a lot more irrelevant to me than CODE.

Elite F1 pilot since YC119, incarnate of honor, integrity and tidi.

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#28 - 2017-02-01 09:53:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Yebo Lakatosh wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
what they earned? Moral victory?

Infamy. We talk about them. Highsec miners who talk also do. The op made a thread, like many others. For many players CODE is the first player-driven organization they ever hear about. Some would say that does worth more than ISK - if not directly translates into it.

Morality in this context sounds a lot more irrelevant to me than CODE.

First player driven organization? Basically every corporation with director who logs in and plays is just that. Goonswarm, PL, TESCO, those corporations are recognized outside game more than CODE. I would say the news about fights are more sellable than your CODE members ganking new players. CODE would paradoxally need to step down if they would be so famous as to be first to be heard of in a game. Because they would have no targets if everyone would adapt to the environment where all CODE have is the same unflexible methods. They would be left with non executable doctrine and no area of gameplay in the game. They would be bored and boredom would kill it. Miners would win. Actually CODE rules are selfdefeating for that corporation in longer run. Every member is working to shut down its own corporation. Its like a suicide cult. Suiciding ships to feel better about themselves.
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Within a month he left the game. I knew that would happen. He was just burned out and emotionally unstable at the time.

I guess some people are permanently emotionally unstable.

That.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2017-02-01 10:11:04 UTC
Haven't seen code self-advertisement through alts for like ... couple weeks? You guys feeling lonely Lol

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Jhonas Riddick
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#30 - 2017-02-01 10:15:08 UTC
Bait Carebear wrote:

You know you are playing a game primarily based on non-concensual PvP right?


8 Golden Rules for Eve Online


* You consent to PvP when you click "undock".

Smile
Yebo Lakatosh
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2017-02-01 10:42:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Yebo Lakatosh
Nana Skalski wrote:
Goonswarm, PL, TESCO, those corporations are recognized outside game more than CODE.

Indeed. I heard about Goons years before I even first considered trying EvE. I did read about PL around the days I have joined. Umm, hearing about TESCO for the first time, besides doing my shopping there. P

But I'm not a good baseline for drawing conclusions about a general player populace, as I do a lot of reading, research and such before comitting to games even far simpler than EvE, not to mention that old and infamous space-epic. Let me risk neither are you, based on by the tiny slice of your activity I have seen so far. But I didn't mean corps you read about in the news or see in videos. I mean corps that someone without prior knowledge actually -hears- about ingame.

Maybe it would be wrong to assume that most new players just see a flashy spaceship game, or a new F2P title on Steam and jump in, but I carefully avoid assumptions about 'most new players', thus I picked words like 'many new players'. Because I can back any of my claims about the latter.

I listen to people in local of the newbro-systems, Rookie Help and in some voice-channels where random people get invited en-masse. And I yet to see the Swarm or the Legion mentioned there. Yet CODE-warnings often pop up, especially when someone asks mining related questions.

Jhonas Riddick wrote:
Bait Carebear wrote:

...

Dang, did I just bite the bait? Ya space-immortals and yer customs 'round here..

Elite F1 pilot since YC119, incarnate of honor, integrity and tidi.

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2017-02-01 10:57:59 UTC
And the CODE parade begins again ..............

Roll



DMC
Akaro Tripar
Doomheim
#33 - 2017-02-01 10:58:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Akaro Tripar
The real problem here is that something like code is still possible....

Gankers of any kind should face 500k damage at the second of the first shot in high and their and their possible preys wrecks should set "out of buisness" for anyone except the prey.....the prey may freely took what he wants as compensation....but touch them(with an alt as it is done now) as not involved or the criminal himself and also face 500k damage...and on and on and on...as long as they get it....could take a while 'til they get the message i guess....
Malcorath Sacerdos
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2017-02-01 11:04:40 UTC
Akaro Tripar wrote:
The real problem here is that something like code is still possible....

Gankers of any kind should face 500k damage at the second of the first shot in high and their and their possible preys wrecks should set "out of buisness" for anyone except the prey.....the prey may freely took what he wants as compensation....but touch them(with an alt as it is done now) as not involved or the criminal himself and also face 500k damage...and on and on and on...as long as they get it....could take a while 'til they get the message i guess....



not that i particularly like suiside gankers... but i really hate trammelised games... a healthy sandbox mmo needs its PK´s and dewds if you dont like this play style and want 100% safety why seek out life in New eden?
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#35 - 2017-02-01 11:07:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Yebo Lakatosh wrote:
Umm, hearing about TESCO for the first time, besides doing my shopping there.


TEST ALLIANCE BEST ALLIANCE! and CO2 were recently fighting together against PL and their fights made some news around christmas time and new year. There were couple of really big battles. You will hear about them more. They are in the south now, and Goons are there also.
Yebo Lakatosh
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2017-02-01 11:20:23 UTC
Ahh.. Sure I knew about TEST... just ignored them for some reason. Lol

Elite F1 pilot since YC119, incarnate of honor, integrity and tidi.

Akaro Tripar
Doomheim
#37 - 2017-02-01 11:20:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Akaro Tripar
I don't care about those tiny explantions "why ganking is good for the game".....

I've heard them all and i give a dam.....

PVP ist still possible if you have to ACCEPT it first like done in the duel option...the software code is there just a slight change has to be made...

All this gibbering about "EVE is a pvp game and would change to the core if something is done against ganking(not pvp,hear what i say this is just about ganking in highsec)" is pure nonsense.

The gankers disturb MY game and that's all that counts....
I don't care about THEIR game,it simply does not interest me....

And yes..this is the same gibbering THEY do every time an anti gank wall is discussed whereever....

PVE: "i want to fly safe"
PVP: "That's impossible,MY game would be changed to the core"
PVE: "but you can do......
PVP: "Impossible,EVE is a PVP game"
PVE: "but....
PVP: "Impossible,that is MY game,go away carebear"

This is how a "discussion" about this theme goes....

Change is bad.....
Yebo Lakatosh
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2017-02-01 11:30:29 UTC
Akaro Tripar wrote:
The gankers disturb MY game and that's all that counts....
I don't care about THEIR game,it simply does not interest me....

And what if gankers make -my- experience more interesting? May I (or anyone else) adapt your approach about anyone else's game?

Naw, that would be too hypocritical for me. I rather just accept CCP's ruling on the matter.

Elite F1 pilot since YC119, incarnate of honor, integrity and tidi.

Malcorath Sacerdos
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2017-02-01 11:36:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcorath Sacerdos
Akaro Tripar wrote:
I don't care about those tiny Explantions "why ganking is good for the game".....

I've heard them all and i give a dam.....

PVP ist still possible if you have to ACCEPT it first like done in the duel option...the software code is there just a slight change has to be made...

All this gibbering about "EVE is a pvp game and would change to the core if something is done against ganking(not pvp,hear what i say this is just about ganking in highsec)" is pure nonsense.

The gankers disturb MY game and that's all that counts....
I don't care about THEIR game,it simply does not interest me....

And yes..this is the same gibbering THEY do every time an anti gank wall is discussed whereever....

PVE: "i want to fly safe"
PVP: "That's impossible,MY game would be changed to the core"
PVE: "but you can do......
PVP: "Impossible,EVE is a PVP game"
PVE: "but....
PVP: "Impossible,that is MY game,go away carebear"

This is how a "discussion" about this theme goes....

Change is bad.....



again i understand why some would be drawn towards the idea of 100% sefety in hs. i would urge you to think one or two steps further than your own risk avertion. imagine what would happen to the market if hs would be 100% safe.
If war deccs was the only way of fighting in hs what would happen then to the small time solo player?
HS is damaged as it is with the level of wardecks going around. Ppl are isk fat and perpetual wardecks is a thing. if you want to strike a blow for improved security in HS start advocating for wardecks to be more expensive. If you have your way small corps will be obliterated as hs gankers turn to wardeccing and citadel hunting istead. Your only option is staying in NPC corporations or joining an existing mega corp.. and thus you kill of any chance a newbro has of stating a small corp and building it up from the ground congrats you just killed off another important funtion of HS in your persuit of life in a NPC corp without risk ...


and then we have the market. the large alliances and corporation who are strong enugh to survive in the 100% gank free HS of yours would have virtual monopoly on HS minerals and good mission running stations ..
Akaro Tripar
Doomheim
#40 - 2017-02-01 11:42:21 UTC
Malcorath Sacerdos wrote:
Akaro Tripar wrote:
I don't care about those tiny Explantions "why ganking is good for the game".....

I've heard them all and i give a dam.....

PVP ist still possible if you have to ACCEPT it first like done in the duel option...the software code is there just a slight change has to be made...

All this gibbering about "EVE is a pvp game and would change to the core if something is done against ganking(not pvp,hear what i say this is just about ganking in highsec)" is pure nonsense.

The gankers disturb MY game and that's all that counts....
I don't care about THEIR game,it simply does not interest me....

And yes..this is the same gibbering THEY do every time an anti gank wall is discussed whereever....

PVE: "i want to fly safe"
PVP: "That's impossible,MY game would be changed to the core"
PVE: "but you can do......
PVP: "Impossible,EVE is a PVP game"
PVE: "but....
PVP: "Impossible,that is MY game,go away carebear"

This is how a "discussion" about this theme goes....

Change is bad.....



again i understand why some would be drawn towards the idea of 100% sefety in hs. i would urge you to think one or two steps further then your own risk avertion. imagine what would happe to the market if hs would be 100% safe. if war deccs was the only way of fighting in hs what would happen then to the small time solo player ? HS is damaged as it is with the level of wardecks going around. ppl are isk fat and perpetual wardecks are a thing. if you want to strike a blow for improved security in HS start advocating for wardecks to be more expensive. if you have your way small corps will be obliterated as hs gankers turn to wardeccing and citadel hunting istead. Your only option is staying in NPC corporations or joining an existing mega corp.. and thus you kill of any chance a newbro has of stating a small corp and building it up from the ground congrats you just killed off another important funtion of HS in your persuit of life in a NPC corp without risk ...


and then we have the market. the large alliances and corporation who are strong enugh to survive in the 100% gank free HS of yours would have virtual monopoly on HS minerals and good mission running stations ..


As i said i heard it all...

And about the "market explonation(always comes) :

Well then ccp is forced to DO THEIR JOB and CONTROL the market and don't push this to the players.....

Yes it would be another EVE...but a better for everyone....