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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#41 - 2017-01-31 22:22:44 UTC
The Red God can make a worthy sacrifice of the most filthiest of Minmatar subhumans. In the Blood Liturgy we bind Molok the Deceiver to the body and spirit of the slave to be sacrificed upon the Altar of God. There is no finer sacrifice.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#42 - 2017-01-31 23:52:57 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
The Red God can make a worthy sacrifice of the most filthiest of Minmatar subhumans. In the Blood Liturgy we bind Molok the Deceiver to the body and spirit of the slave to be sacrificed upon the Altar of God. There is no finer sacrifice.


And this is why liturgy of this nature must be left to those who truly understand this.

You offer this as "justification?"

That your "god" will elevate a slave to the ranks of an Amarr. Is it because you will it so?

Quote:
The Rites: Use of Blood

For the Divine decreed to the Chosen [Amarr] that only their Blood was worthy of his lips.

Nor that of Slave or Beast. Those who do have committed the grievous of sins.

To preserve the Word, only the flesh of the Chosen [Amarr] will serve.

All other flesh is impure and is a sin against the Divine.


You remind me of the champion who demanded to recognized as power in the universe until he incurred the wrath of those better than him. I see this repeating again.

Except it will not be some Divine Heroes facing judgement.

Instead it will be charlatan overwhelmed by his "slaves"




We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#43 - 2017-02-01 12:34:57 UTC
Casserina Leshrac wrote:

That your "god" will elevate a slave to the ranks of an Amarr. Is it because you will it so?


God by the miracle of transubstantiation can make a worthy sacrifice out of the most humble of material.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#44 - 2017-02-01 13:59:21 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Casserina Leshrac wrote:

That your "god" will elevate a slave to the ranks of an Amarr. Is it because you will it so?


God by the miracle of transubstantiation can make a worthy sacrifice out of the most humble of material.


So now you resort to magic, superstition and utter poppycock to substantiate your claims? Well I for a person who has named his "philosophical path" after himself.

Just to be clear. Over the last couple of days you have not proven your case merely cited your own words. I have countered with other texts from my journey.

What has been proven is this:

You are murderer and a butcher - ritual killings do not make a worthy sacrifices.

You are a charlatan and a deceiver - you do your friend Molok proud, no wonder you venerate him.

You are not one of the Chosen - Hence you are not of Amarr.

I denounce you as Sani Sabik - corrupting our teachings to justify your bloodlust. Wasted Blood of non-Amarr does not grant you Ascension.

In parting my dear. You are not even destined to be a false prophet. Please refer to my earlier comment about being murderer and butcher.


We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#45 - 2017-02-01 14:06:40 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Casserina Leshrac wrote:

That your "god" will elevate a slave to the ranks of an Amarr. Is it because you will it so?


God by the miracle of transubstantiation can make a worthy sacrifice out of the most humble of material.

Even I can do better. I can transubstantiate a bunch of humble ingredients into a starcake worthy of a sin. And what I can do even better, I can make it disappear! Magic! \o/

Praise me and you will be granted a place beside my table. Cool
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#46 - 2017-02-01 15:02:52 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Casserina Leshrac wrote:

That your "god" will elevate a slave to the ranks of an Amarr. Is it because you will it so?


God by the miracle of transubstantiation can make a worthy sacrifice out of the most humble of material.

Even I can do better. I can transubstantiate a bunch of humble ingredients into a starcake worthy of a sin. And what I can do even better, I can make it disappear! Magic! \o/

Praise me and you will be granted a place beside my table. Cool


Worthy of sin eh? Perhaps I should sample this stardust cake myself Lol

But then again I know thing or two about sin myself Cool


We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#47 - 2017-02-01 17:19:27 UTC
Starcake as it is described in Neocom:
Quote:
The recipe for this highly ornate, traditional Jin-Mei sweet varies from planet to planet, and sometimes from city to city, but its fillings are always dense, sugary, and rich. Each cake's jelly center is held in place with a crusty exterior that, as befits tradition, is so highly decorated with symbols that it resembles a volcanic planet: It is possible to read the baker's story, lineage, and certifications in the crust's maze of lines and ridges, although a reader must be quite dedicated to finish the task before falling to temptation.

Come over to my CQ, its ready and I will gladly share with you. Perhaps later we could even learn something about sin, together. Blink
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#48 - 2017-02-01 18:53:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Casserina Leshrac
Nana Skalski wrote:
Starcake as it is described in Neocom:
Quote:
The recipe for this highly ornate, traditional Jin-Mei sweet varies from planet to planet, and sometimes from city to city, but its fillings are always dense, sugary, and rich. Each cake's jelly center is held in place with a crusty exterior that, as befits tradition, is so highly decorated with symbols that it resembles a volcanic planet: It is possible to read the baker's story, lineage, and certifications in the crust's maze of lines and ridges, although a reader must be quite dedicated to finish the task before falling to temptation.

Come over to my CQ, its ready and I will gladly share with you. Perhaps later we could even learn something about sin, together. Blink


Oh I think a discussion of sin over Starcake would only be the beginning my dear.

I think there is much "forbidden knowledge" to be gained.

A true Sani Sabik never turns down such an offer.

Please feel free to contact me privately for the details.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Mika Firestorm
Your Friendly Neighborhood Logistics
#49 - 2017-02-05 11:14:18 UTC
Hey, don't mix our Starcakes with fanatics and bloody cults, okay?...

State the nature of your medical emergency

Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#50 - 2017-02-05 18:37:38 UTC
Mika Firestorm wrote:
Hey, don't mix our Starcakes with fanatics and bloody cults, okay?...


But they were delicious and goes well with our tea.


We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Sinti Vailatti
Angelis Exploration
#51 - 2017-02-06 17:48:24 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Casserina Leshrac wrote:

That your "god" will elevate a slave to the ranks of an Amarr. Is it because you will it so?


God by the miracle of transubstantiation can make a worthy sacrifice out of the most humble of material.



Ok, I need some info. While I'm not the smartest when it comes to theology, walk me through how this works?

So take me. I'm Matari, I have tattoos, I drink, do drugs, kill people, fornicate (not all at the same time....usually). How under your view do I get "saved" or deemed as "worthy?"


“Where must we go...we who wander this wasteland, in search of our better selves?”

Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#52 - 2017-02-06 19:13:42 UTC
Sinti Vailatti wrote:


So take me. I'm Matari, I have tattoos, I drink, do drugs, kill people, fornicate (not all at the same time....usually). How under your view do I get "saved" or deemed as "worthy?"




One could suggest you use the example of the Ammantar

However, many Holders do take on slaves. While some look at slaves as nothing more than animals. Others look slaves as "lesser' members of their family.

It is a view shared by the Amarr. For example the cults formed because Empress Caitiz I's Udorian heritage. Because of this alleged impurity, she is not worthy for she is not True Amarr. And yet the Fates granted her the throne.

So how does a Matar "ascend" to be worthy of being Amarr?

A very good question.

The Sani Sabik beliefs are have rumored to have started with the Takmahl, when the Amarr came to conquer and later exiled them.

In light of both ancient and recent history, I can see no reason why a Matar could not be worthy. Yes a very good question, one worthy of exploration. Perhaps being Amarr goes beyond just Flesh and Blood. Is there really a difference between a soul of the Amarr and that of Matari.

Maybe this goes to when Empress Jamyl I freed the slaves. Not all left mind you, many stayed with their Households and employed staff. But they stayed because they choose too. Many chose be in service of their "betters."

I leave you with this. While those of Amarr Blood were often used to further a chronicle made of their own Flesh and Blood. There was a rumor that some Holders would take a slave with them to the afterlife to continue their service.

Oh yes, new questions to be answered. I thank you Sinti Vailatti, I as a Sani Sabik always like a new mystery to be solved.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Karmilla Strife
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#53 - 2017-02-07 01:49:48 UTC
Miss Leshrac, you are providing an undue amount of thought to a response due from Mr. Nauplius, the false prophet of Naupliusism.

Miss Vailatti: Nauplius wants you to kill, almost as much as he loves to kill, Minmatar. Only if you kill a bunch of Minmatar and drink their blood then reside in his (historically doomed) temples can you find your way out of his fictional hell. Because God apparently hates pleasure hubs, but his (false) prophet's temples are as assured of their destruction, but we will ignore that...

Also you have tattoos, Nauplius thinks that means you are marked for destruction because he is so petty as to think a bit of ink in the epidermis incurs the most severe wrath of the greatest entity in existence.

You had better get used to fratricide and choking on clots if you have a hope of getting on that madman's good side. That should last a month or two until people who hate each other band together long enough to destroy your new home and Nauplius' works once again.


Miss Leshrac, you obviously thought about your response, but you are incorrect. The Amarr only consider one thing when judging whether someone is "worthy". It can be summed in a single word. "service."
Mika Firestorm
Your Friendly Neighborhood Logistics
#54 - 2017-02-07 07:23:00 UTC
Casserina Leshrac wrote:
Mika Firestorm wrote:
Hey, don't mix our Starcakes with fanatics and bloody cults, okay?...


But they were delicious and goes well with our tea.



There's nothing really wrong in eating them and drinking tea. I mean, don't mix them with rituals and stuff like that. They are just yummy food and symbolize cook's efforts to please guests, not to be used in some wicked practices.

State the nature of your medical emergency

Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#55 - 2017-02-07 08:52:08 UTC
Mika Firestorm wrote:

There's nothing really wrong in eating them and drinking tea. I mean, don't mix them with rituals and stuff like that. They are just yummy food and symbolize cook's efforts to please guests, not to be used in some wicked practices.


As I have discovered from many Gallente friends, food preparation is indeed a ritual onto itself. Some may even call it art. Needless to say such decadence is always meant to explored and exploited in the company of friends.

I would never use such wondrous cakes for our rituals. The act of doing so is practically sinful.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#56 - 2017-02-07 09:40:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Casserina Leshrac
Karmilla Strife wrote:
Miss Leshrac, you are providing an undue amount of thought to a response due from Mr. Nauplius, the false prophet of Naupliusism.



Lady Strife, you too kind. Perhaps if more of the Faithful took notice of this rabid Khanid who mock both the Holy Scriptures and Sani Sabik he would have never made into space. Alas, it must be a failing on someone's part.

All I did was merely point that he was in no position to be of any type of divine authority.

Now about me being incorrect on this matter. I harken you to The Holy Scriptures below.

Quote:


The Scriptures. Book II

"Our Lord visited his flock and saw that all was not good.

Blasphemy and heresy ruled the land.

The Lord punished the sinners and drowned them in their own blood.

But the people of Amarr lived righteously and in fear of God.

Thus they were saved and became God's chosen one."


As a Sani Sabik I have been exposed to the Scriptures and various other documents like the Takmahl Texts that in many cases complement each other. I have even seen more questionable documents when I was in service to the one or two cults that allowed me access.

I will admit that I am no expert. I know when things get a challenging I always go back to this passage. Knowing that you, I and any True Amarr have been truly "chosen"
Quote:


Apocryphon, Lost Passages

My word lies within all
All it requires is the breath of faith
To ignite the fire
So the lost can find their way
So the fallen can rise
To take their place as my chosen [Amarr]
For you are all my creation
And are all equal in my kingdom


To my knowledge there is no word for those who serve save "slave."

And Empress Jamyl I corrected that issue with her emancipation decree. Times are uncertain and now we must explore all options.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#57 - 2017-02-07 12:27:20 UTC
Sinti Vailatti wrote:

Ok, I need some info. While I'm not the smartest when it comes to theology, walk me through how this works?

So take me. I'm Matari, I have tattoos, I drink, do drugs, kill people, fornicate (not all at the same time....usually). How under your view do I get "saved" or deemed as "worthy?"




Gather three Minmatar: one Brutor, one Sebiestor, one Vherokior. Intone over them the words of Institution, "And Molok the Deciever was brought before the Emperor in chains and sacrificed upon the Altar of God". Sacrifice the three Minmatar upon the Altar of God, feed from their wounds, and fill a Golden Vial with their blood, for the Blood of the Brutor gives Strength to the Chosen, the Blood of the Sebiestor gives Intellect to the Chosen, and the Blood of the Vherokior gives Wisdom to the Chosen. Wear that vial around your neck, not to be used except at the utmost end of need. Forever forsake your Minmatarness: your tattoos, your spirits, your fellowship with other Minmatar.

Now you no longer a slave; now you are Chosen of God.
Sinti Vailatti
Angelis Exploration
#58 - 2017-02-07 15:33:45 UTC
Nauplius wrote:


Gather three Minmatar: one Brutor, one Sebiestor, one Vherokior. Intone over them the words of Institution, "And Molok the Deciever was brought before the Emperor in chains and sacrificed upon the Altar of God". Sacrifice the three Minmatar upon the Altar of God, feed from their wounds, and fill a Golden Vial with their blood, for the Blood of the Brutor gives Strength to the Chosen, the Blood of the Sebiestor gives Intellect to the Chosen, and the Blood of the Vherokior gives Wisdom to the Chosen. Wear that vial around your neck, not to be used except at the utmost end of need. Forever forsake your Minmatarness: your tattoos, your spirits, your fellowship with other Minmatar.

Now you no longer a slave; now you are Chosen of God.




Thanks for the other replies folks...

Ok...I think I get the symbolism in this...

So I'm Sebiestor, but I have Brutor and Vherokior in my familiy's background too...probably Nefantor as well...can I just use my own blood? Or is there a genetic "purity" aspect to this?

Also, when you say, "given over to destruction," do you mean destruction as death or destruction as change?

This is all really muddled...

“Where must we go...we who wander this wasteland, in search of our better selves?”

Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#59 - 2017-02-07 18:11:05 UTC
It's all muddled because it's made up crap. Naups makes this stuff up as he goes along. His "religion" is nothing more than a vanity cult of personality

You know it's bad when both orthodox Amarr and Sabik denounce it.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Rossanjiin Eskeitan
Guri Raiders
#60 - 2017-02-07 19:04:33 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
It's all muddled because it's made up crap. Naups makes this stuff up as he goes along. His "religion" is nothing more than a vanity cult of personality

You know it's bad when both orthodox Amarr and Sabik denounce it.


Aw, come on. Give him some credit. At least he's trying. I've said it before in another thread. At least he's fighting for something.