Missions & Complexes

this was probably a year ago, so I had a 7 link command ship off grid. With the current on grid links well, it probably wouldn't work at all. I suppose you could bring the links to the gate and have ~1min of boosts to start the fight, but imo that is way more effort than it is worth. Especially since your combat ship will be faster than the link ship.

then you should try the serpentis in a hawk.

set a higher angle to close the gap. the nanofiber give you less speed and less hull.

make sure you keep up transversal on the two far talos as they will get good hits on you if you dont. the default orbit can do a very lousy job of this.

perma run gist booster sounds nice and lazy, but the pith will tank more, EFT says 792 for pith x-type, and 640 for gist. Kinda a big difference in tank. I use a cap booster and typically only use 2 cap booster 800s each run which cost basically nothing.

If you don't mind trying a VNI - and losing a drone or 2 occasionally - this fit has worked well for me:

[Vexor Navy Issue, VNI4T-R]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Gist B-Type 100MN Afterburner
Pith B-Type Large Shield Booster
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I
Thermal Dissipation Field II

150mm Railgun II
150mm Railgun II

Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II



Berserker II x8

Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S x278
Navy Cap Booster 800 x6

(NB: Getting that Gist AB on there was a feat - but it can probably be replaced with something cheaper and easier to fit)

- TRY VERY HARD TO AVOID TRIGGERING A SENTRY GUN (you WILL lose drones cleaning it up)
- Activate thermal hardener on warp in.
- Always be moving with AB on until last target is down.
- Approach target in the typical indirect pattern - when at 55km or less orbit at 7km
- Lock when in range, activate guns, launch drones and engage.
- Immediately recall a drone taking damage (3-4 drones are enough to kill a Talos - albeit a little slower)
- Recall drones the instant a target is down. If possible, move towards drones or temporarily slow your ship to make it easier for them to hop back in their bay. (This is the most dangerous time for them as they are sitting ducks for the remaining Talos)

Another handy tip: Make a bookmark when you warp in. Then after last target is dead, head to nearest station (preferably in same system) to complete mission - THEN come back to bookmark and you'll warp between wrecks.

Do you have an idea of the time to kill with this fit ?
The sansha seems rather easy to me, just OL AB, kar on arrival, catch him with web, then burn it down. sometime one cap boost, sometimes two. I OL one hardener to reduce cap consumption, so maybe it actually is quite demanding, but never lost a ship (while I lost two to guristas and one to angel burners)

Manual Piloting at around 60-70 degrees and I spiral in to the Talos. Overheating the MWD helps and I only hit orbit at 60 km and I only ever stop orbiting when the Talos targets my drones. Once close enough I turn off the MWD so I don't suffer form sig bloom. SO the combination of small sig size, orbiting, drones and the hardner + SB means I usually don't have any trouble at all, even with lucky wrecking hits.

This burner really tests your PvP skills, as much as the burners do.

I +1 on this.

Actually I feel like, when I deactivate mwd from too close, I kinda slingshot the talos (like I reach 7km instead of the 6) and my ship makes a full stop to turn. This is, even when deactivating my mwd at 27 (which should be enough) that is why I asked if I should use a nanofiber to avoid this weird behaviour.

Also the last runs I had no issue, but I target the below of the burner(at angle) and only press orbit at 10 to avoid CCP stupid "let's orbit in a horizontal plan".

I also ran in a strange situation, where the three burners had started attacking my drones, so I said KaR 1500 on the first, then all of a sudden the three burners decide to switch target and attack me. Since I was worried I quickly corrected the situation, but just saying : this can happen too. And no, no drone had died.

Basically this mission is.. the most interesting one, I think. Really need to consider trajector and situation awareness (mines)

Think I would be able to do the Sansha Succubus with everything V except for Assault frigate and AC spec at IV?

This seems like a much cheaper and safer fit than the ~200m daredevil fit as long as there are not any gimmicks for it like boosters or expensive implant sets needed.

Also, I keep running into this weird bug with the burner Curor and the wolf setup. When I initially web him, I can eat through the shields really fast, but once it gets to armor I am doing very small amounts of damage. Cycled basically everything and still not enough damage to even scratch the armor tank. Out of desperation I overheated the web for 1 cycle and damage was applying normally. Not sure what all that is about, anyone else had the same bug / issue?

Yep, fusion and nova for the rocket. I was about to give up and write the ship off as a loss after making no progress for about 5 minutes. Overheated the web for the hell of it and suddenly I was getting through the tank. Really strange.