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If you could choose only one race of ships, what race would that be? Returning player starting fresh
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AstarothPrime
Pecunia Infinita
#41 - 2012-01-20 10:23:13 UTC  |  Edited by: AstarothPrime
Amarr all the way.

- Caldari starts sucking past BC hulls, and missiles are boring as bloody hell, pve is good in serpentis and gurista space due to 25% only kinetic bonus on most PVE ships... ravens, including navy, sucks hairy balls with cruises, dont try to convince me otherwise... hybrids ... no need to discuss those

- Minmatar are either low dps high alpha and range or short range boats...
falloff is actually scam - AC suck for anything further then 1/4 falloff, you HAVE to live in angel area to do pve with them properly, they are great for pvp, fotm, but still overrated

- Gallente - drones are OK, great carriers, but those ships cant shoot :\

- Amarr - pve good in sanshas and blood area, great PVP boats in all sizes, shoots max DPS furthest with large beams where not all is in falloff ;)


I.
Kn1v3s 999
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-01-20 11:53:39 UTC
Winmatar.

-Rifter
-Trasher
-Sabre
-Wolf
-Stiletto
-Rupture
-Cane
-Tornado
-Vagabond
-Rapier
-Huginn
-Sleipnir
-Maelstorm
-Tempest

Subcap none can match em.
For each class (t1 or t2) they have the best ship or a viable option and they can do both small/large pvp

and you need to skill them to have access of the Angel ships (more OP ships, but you will have to crosstrain to gallente for them)

-Daredevil
-Dramiel
-Cynabal
-Machariel
-Vindicator

/thread
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2012-01-20 15:57:48 UTC
There can be only one ... Minmatar.

Being minmatar is like listening to http://youtu.be/hbMk6PEN7JA nonstop on foreverloop.

Thats how they are.
Jacob Stov
#44 - 2012-01-20 16:14:32 UTC
Quite easy. Minmatar.

Started out as Caldari, but luckily switched before the buff to Minmatar.

Better snipers, better roaming ships, better tacklers. Capitals are not that hot for both, but atleast Minmatar don't have a 100% fail dread, and the carrier is better now, too.

Maybe Tengu is better than Loki, but that really isn't a class of ships I have any interest in.
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#45 - 2012-01-20 17:06:17 UTC  |  Edited by: PotatoOverdose
Probably amarr because they have ships that excel at almost ever role.
Pilgrim - Drone boat, Excellent solo ship
Curse - Excellent fleet ship, can be shield or armor fit depending on logi support.
Guardian - Best logi boat (although scimi is a close second)
Arbitrator - Extremely cost effective pvp drone boat, and due to having a td bonus can punch well above its weight class
Armageddon - Most cost effective BS.
Abaddon - Incredible buffer, can be fit with 1400's for excellent alpha. Excellent laser dps as well.
Armageddon Navy Issue - Decent option for shield incursion fleets if that's your thing.
Zealot - second to none as far as fleet hacs go.

Also, a number of amarr ships (malediction, vengeance, sacrilege) have missile bonuses as well, if your a fan of damage projection with selectable damage types.

Amarr does everything well, except for speed.

Edit: Also Amarr has the best caps. Minmatar caps are a poor joke by comparison.
Kn1v3s 999
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2012-01-20 18:07:02 UTC
problem about Amarr is they shine only after you have their t2 ships or BS, so it' s a long long run for a newbie
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#47 - 2012-01-20 18:15:56 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Amarr does everything well, except for speed.


Slicer. Cool

Retribution, too, if you kite-fit it.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Naomi Knight
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2012-01-20 19:34:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Naomi Knight
looks like winmatar wins again :O no wonder it is the easiest race by far perfect for newbies
2nd is amarr
Andrea Griffin
#49 - 2012-01-20 20:55:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Griffin
Bent Barrel wrote:
How about ship class instead of race restriction ? I started a new account (this one) and told myself that I won't set pod into anything larger than a frigate (ok I was flying a vexor for a bit :-))).

Plenty of options in frigates alone for everything.
I did this when I started out with my flashy lowsec Yarrr pirate character. Years later, I still fly almost exclusively frigates.

My training went a lot like this:
Started Caldari: Trained up missiles, hybrids, shields, drones.
Cross trained to Gallente; Already had drones, just needed armor skills.
Cross trained to Amarr: Already had drones and armor skills, just needed to train lasers.
Cross trained to Minmatar: Already had everything except Autocannons.

Once you flesh out your skills with one race, you can very quickly become competent with the others. Plus, with frigates being a low-rank skill, and guns / missiles limited to frigate sizes, the training goes by so quickly!

As a side note, the ships I have flown the least are Gallente. I don't know if I even have a kill in a Gallente ship; I'm just not all that fond of them.

Kn1v3s 999 wrote:
problem about Amarr is they shine only after you have their t2 ships or BS, so it' s a long long run for a newbie
This is true. The Amarr T1 lineup is pretty weak until you get into battlecruisers with T2 guns. Their T2 ships, however, are truly awesome. One of my favorite solo PvP frigates is the Sentinel.

CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#50 - 2012-01-20 21:16:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Petrus Blackshell
Andrea Griffin wrote:
Bent Barrel wrote:
How about ship class instead of race restriction ? I started a new account (this one) and told myself that I won't set pod into anything larger than a frigate (ok I was flying a vexor for a bit :-))).

Plenty of options in frigates alone for everything.
I did this when I started out with my flashy lowsec Yarrr pirate character. Years later, I still fly almost exclusively frigates.

My training went a lot like this:
Started Caldari: Trained up missiles, hybrids, shields, drones.
Cross trained to Gallente; Already had drones, just needed armor skills.
Cross trained to Amarr: Already had drones and armor skills, just needed to train lasers.
Cross trained to Minmatar: Already had everything except Autocannons.

Once you flesh out your skills with one race, you can very quickly become competent with the others. Plus, with frigates being a low-rank skill, and guns / missiles limited to frigate sizes, the training goes by so quickly!

I've restricted myself to frigates/cruisers and my training went Minmatar->Amarr->Gallente->Caldari. By this time I fly all of them pretty much equally, though less Minmatar than I expected to be flying what with all the "winmatar" rabble.

"Small ships only" is a fun way to play. I ended up training a few bigger ships for PvE and other such purposes, but frigates are where it's at.

Edit:Amarr frigates and cruisers, even the T1 ones, are still some of my favorite ships, actually. Inquisitor is great, Crucifier is awesome support, Arbitrator is an amazing cruiser, and Maller makes a great brick neut+tackle ship, plus I solo killed a Prophecy while using my Punisher once. T1 Amarr is really underrated, IMO.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
OfBalance
Caldari State
#51 - 2012-01-20 21:39:38 UTC
I get a lot of enjoyment from caldari myself. I have considered cross training one race or another more times than I care to count, but I always stay true to my first race. Probably just my OCD, but it hasn't caused me too much heartache.

If I had to start from scratch again, btw that's a horrifying prospect considering the years of training I now take for granted, i'd probably choose minmatar or gallente just for variety's sake, using both tank types, having a little weapon variety, more drones to play with.
Christina Trild
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-01-20 22:46:01 UTC
MINMATAR FTW
all the way


Our ships are easy to Repair we just need 5 rolls of ducktape
Pink Marshmellow
Caucasian Culture Club
#53 - 2012-01-21 09:25:42 UTC
Amarr for me, I like shiny ships with lasers.

Sure Amarr is not like the king of subcaps that Minmatar is, but they are still rather good and can hold on their own.

Minmatar maybe the king of smaller ships, but Amarr is the king of bigger ships. Minmatar Capitals are fairly lacking for my tastes. The Minmatar concept of agility and speed doesn't exactly work for them.

Amarr is GOLDEN.
Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2012-01-22 10:30:50 UTC
my preferred race is Sansha, i luv my spikey shield tanked lazor ships more than anything else. except i know not to take them into pvp because they are a flying lossmail outside of station. waiting for a buff for my beloved lazor ships
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#55 - 2012-01-22 14:51:40 UTC
Gallente.

Highly competive options for solo and small gang combat. Blaster balancing will be improved even more on 24th. Drones had a ninja buff. Drone ships are also versatile and interesting to fly, offering more tactical gameplay than turret only-ships. Talos is awesome.

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