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Hello Space Friends, some advice needed.

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Natural CloneKiller
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#41 - 2017-01-27 09:44:55 UTC
Red Forskin wrote:
So as a new Alpha I was out recently just exploring the vastness of EVE when I happened upon an Orca mining with drones in a high security system named Hageken. I loitered in the belt for a minute just watching him/her and tweaking my overview. Apparently I breached some sort of etiquette, as the pilot started accusing me of being a "ganker spy".


The Pilot, one Codex Biovector, got pretty nasty with me about "spying" on him. He must have gotten scared of my shiney new frigate ship. He warped away to a citadel he claims to own and stayed there the rest of my visit, all while hurling false accusations and conspiracy theories at me. Says he will send people to hunt me. Ahahahaha!
Very immature, but I understand it happens in online games.


Well this made me decide to subscribe to an Omega clone so I could begin my real EVE experience!


This brings me to my questions:

How powerful is this guy? (He claims to have been some hotshot with an organization called BOB)
How does a new player know what mercenary groups can be trusted to fight this guy?
And are there any groups willing to take in a new pilot and train him to fight in high security wars?
Can a player owned citadel even be killed in high security systems?
Will a mercenary corp even bother doing business with a new player?



I am stil researching as much info as I can find, but any suggestions would be appreciated. Maybe we can chat in game if you have information and don't want to discuss it here.

Thanks guys! Big smile



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Codex Biovector
BV Mining and Free Trade
#42 - 2017-01-28 21:14:49 UTC

[/quote]I note that you're a tad tearful[/quote]
Sorry, I wasn't tearful. I formed a group with others and countered a gank with ease. I don't see any tearfulness in there. 3-4 for 1 target, to countering 3 gankers with only 2 people.


[/quote]I fear though that you've mistaken the harbour wall for the gang plank, and wildly misplaced your foot.[/quote]
In what ways did I form a wall? I was given 2 choices by a silly leader, Pay for protection or pay for a permit. I made a group with others and countered a gank. No wall was made. Misplaced my foot? No.


[/quote] I confess, I'd not heard of you before you dropped one in the comments section of the Miner Bumping website. Are you known at all? I mean for battery rather than bellyaching? [/quote]
Sorry that the troll was able to fool you so easily. (Kinda showing your train of thought) I never made that post on that website. Its like purposely aiming to draw attention to the zone. Which anyone would notice. (I'm sure a high and mighty CODE. member would have that thought cross their mind.

[/quote] No, I thought not. Now, I'd be grateful if you could edit your submission down to, say, Twitter proportions and give us a sense of your main grievance. Without the fluff, without the tears. [/quote]
No tears form our ends, ( grievance ) Only here calling out a fake name with a fake trolly post. (I would hope you can tell a fake one easily) "Red foreskin"

I have had some random troll go out of his way to great lengths (But it is rather funny) form forums mining bump to evewho to even local forums we use trying their best to start conflict every way possible. It's fun to mock and post up his comments with silly clips or artwork during the stream. But never would I threaten someone new. I rather personally tend to fighting in my own ship vs hiring a crew to counter a gank group. (Why pay for protection or a permit. I rather fight. Sure its been a long time. But I'm relearning the combat stage myself. )

Only thing I do is dive into wormholes and help local miners out with boost them with orca. And Create clips for the ESL Broadcast for R6 and titanfall 2 stream. In hopes to bring those that watch the broadcast would join the game. Some have joined as alpha accounts. Some already have become omega accounts. I don't advertise my name or even the stream on websites such as these or others because most likely, Eve being a open world game. You will find those who aim and hunt streamers aka Stream snipe. (I.e. Trolling)

Other then that I normally never say something in-game. Or on forums for the matter.

Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#43 - 2017-01-28 23:41:21 UTC
Codex, you messed up the quotes so bad I don't even know where your blabber starts Lol
I also lol'd at your rage here

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Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#44 - 2017-01-29 00:10:19 UTC
I gotta ask.... Is your foreskin really red?

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!

Red Forskin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2017-01-30 00:13:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Red Forskin
Saeger1737 wrote:
I gotta ask.... Is your foreskin really red?


Sometimes it's blue, depends on the situation. Blink


As far as that trainwreck on eve who, I think he mad.

I find it amusing that my target finally found this. Took him long enough but hey what can I expect.
He claims to be mining daily while afk, but I just can't seem to substantiate those claims. He must be a login ninja of unparalleled ability. Almost like a phantom. It's gonna take a bigger time investment than I thought to actually catch him online.


He wants us to believe he only has EVE and CCPs best interest at heart, but his language and threats on other sites betrays him as a vile individual. Watch out, he will try to fite you with his "11% body fat". Whatever he ment by that...


I took some time to read through the eve who comments ( it took a while ) and it seems he wants to fight someone from TNT in RL, and he thinks it's funny to laugh at a female gamer that sufffered a terrible loss recently. And if we are smart we will hide our IPs from him, else we risk him posting our personal information. If it's actually our correct information or not is irrelevant to him.


I do have one question about eve who. Does anyone know of a more cancer laden comments section on that site? Or is my target a special case?


As for him countering the gank, he didnt stop the gankers from killing their target, he just whored on the killmail. His ability to misinterpret facts is astounding. The funniest part is how he accuses everyone of being the same guy.

If we are lucky maybe he will expound on his belief that the market in EVE is "not important" or how EVE is dying. He has some wild theories in that eve who comments section.


Yea, he's a WH diver for sure. Roll
Codex Biovector
BV Mining and Free Trade
#46 - 2017-01-30 15:10:40 UTC
Red Forskin wrote:
Saeger1737 wrote:
I gotta ask.... Is your foreskin really red?


Sometimes it's blue, depends on the situation. Blink


As far as that trainwreck on eve who, I think he mad.

I find it amusing that my target finally found this. Took him long enough but hey what can I expect.
He claims to be mining daily while afk, but I just can't seem to substantiate those claims. He must be a login ninja of unparalleled ability. Almost like a phantom. It's gonna take a bigger time investment than I thought to actually catch him online.


He wants us to believe he only has EVE and CCPs best interest at heart, but his language and threats on other sites betrays him as a vile individual. Watch out, he will try to fite you with his "11% body fat". Whatever he ment by that...


I took some time to read through the eve who comments ( it took a while ) and it seems he wants to fight someone from TNT in RL, and he thinks it's funny to laugh at a female gamer that sufffered a terrible loss recently. And if we are smart we will hide our IPs from him, else we risk him posting our personal information. If it's actually our correct information or not is irrelevant to him.


I do have one question about eve who. Does anyone know of a more cancer laden comments section on that site? Or is my target a special case?


As for him countering the gank, he didnt stop the gankers from killing their target, he just whored on the killmail. His ability to misinterpret facts is astounding. The funniest part is how he accuses everyone of being the same guy.

If we are lucky maybe he will expound on his belief that the market in EVE is "not important" or how EVE is dying. He has some wild theories in that eve who comments section.


Yea, he's a WH diver for sure. Roll







I'm not mad, only curious why someone in TNT (systems high guard) would go to great lengths to frame another. It's clear your using my name on any website and saying random things to stir up problems. I'm not mad, I find it rather cute you have such a hard on for my name and me in general. To bash someone on eve who and go to other websites, to threaten ingame with trolling comments. I wonder if eve is all you have in this world. If your raging a hard one for me, I'm flattered. But with all your framing your trying to do. I'm just curious why someone would be shallow to do said actions.

My only logical guess, since you were easily counter ganked once, you guys got mad about it, (specially since the hulk you guys aimed for was labeled (bait)) that all in itself is priceless.

But troll on all you like. :)


PS: if your actually going to target someone you should be looking for them and not leave hageken as soon as they join the system.
Hint:
Ship name (Guess who?)
Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2017-01-30 15:19:13 UTC
Hi Red,

My, this has been going a while. Had to remind myself of its original purpose!

Count me as a Space Friend; here's some space-friendly advice. If you give it oxygen, it'll carry on breathing. If you interrupt its oxygen supply, it ceases breathing, with all too well-known consequences.

It isn't about free speech, it's about Oxygen, man, Oxygen!
Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
#48 - 2017-01-30 15:22:33 UTC
Why didn't somebody tell me about this biovector guy sooner? His posting history is a wealth of tears! This will help sustain me during Lucas Kell droughts.
Codex Biovector
BV Mining and Free Trade
#49 - 2017-01-30 17:01:10 UTC
To the Sasha player.
I'm not tearful, morally concerned of you of your said ganker/miningbumper etc group is clearly obsessed with me. He seemed to be creating fake posts (code) and even on your said forums "mining bumping" it's almost as if the man clearly is lost his mind. I'm generally concerned of the mental illness the troll is displaying. It be sad if a community of (miningbumpers) were being played of their own members. It would appear so form our end it is a TNT member. Though to think one of your groupies showed such ill behavior in both forums and gameplay. Kinda questions your community aswell and how it reflects on the vast game itself. Sure trolling can be fun, but taking it as far as this "red" has taken it makes me curious on what has gotten him so upset.


I laugh at his attempts, but after seeing how far he is going, only makes me curious on his mental health and condition.
Always helps to be thoughtful on safety :)

(Side note)
Its rather funny how far he has gone though. A+++ for effort. Big smile
Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
#50 - 2017-01-30 17:16:43 UTC
He's not tearful, folks! If you read through his lengthy posts you will see paragraphs and paragraphs explaining just how very much not butthurt he is.
Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2017-01-30 17:26:46 UTC
Codex Biovector wrote:
To the Sasha player.


You could have said 'To Sasha'; I would have understood it to include 'To Rob'.


Codex Biovector wrote:
I laugh at his attempts


I almost heard 'I fart in his general direction....'. Anyone else?

Other than that, a more in-depth response than I expected. So, we're all being trolled, but not by you. We're fools for rising to the bait, but not if we were to rise to the bait which you've been proffering in Hageken? It is confusing; but as the Galaxy Farmer has pointed out, still sounds like bragranting, with a trickle/deluge of tears.
Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#52 - 2017-01-30 20:14:13 UTC
I think the involved parties are missing the point.

We don't care if you are right or wrong, noob or senior, troll or sincere.

We just want conflict, a backstory, and escalation. Opportunities for us to participate are appreciated. If it sounds like we are playing a game... think about it.



I'll bet you I can randomly select a target, do something mean to him, take offense at his reaction, then post it here and even admitting all that... garner support against an innocent target by making it fun to support me.

Red: This crap is only trolling because you broke character and destroyed the content. I'm personally disappointed. We should have followed this down the rabbit hole.
StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#53 - 2017-01-30 23:00:44 UTC
Now one has to wonder what is worse. Red being Biovector or Biovector being Red. One claims innocence, the other of skullduggery. One of infected foreskin, The other of taking a codex bio. My marijuana induced psychosis cant decide. Please someone help him.

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.

Red Forskin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2017-01-30 23:20:06 UTC
Codex Biovector wrote:
Tears

Did the Hulk survive?
Can you link the hulk kill if it did not?
Did you kill the ganker?

Do you have any proof at all, or are you just making this crap up?

And maybe you would like to explain why you believe TNT is "after" you? They seem to be absent at present.

Try not to miss anything this time, I know how you like to try and shift the topic when it's time to put up.
Red Forskin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2017-01-30 23:28:47 UTC
Mobadder Thworst wrote:




I'll bet you I can randomly select a target, do something mean to him, take offense at his reaction, then post it here and even admitting all that... garner support against an innocent target by making it fun to support me.


Would it not be better to have a legitimate reason? At least in your own mind?

If you truly believed your target was deserving would that not make the payout even richer?
Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#56 - 2017-01-31 03:59:56 UTC
I think red and codex are one in the same person...

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!

Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#57 - 2017-01-31 04:51:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Mobadder Thworst
Red Forskin wrote:
Mobadder Thworst wrote:




I'll bet you I can randomly select a target, do something mean to him, take offense at his reaction, then post it here and even admitting all that... garner support against an innocent target by making it fun to support me.


Would it not be better to have a legitimate reason? At least in your own mind?

If you truly believed your target was deserving would that not make the payout even richer?



Your space opera is shallow and lacks for both fun and chaos.

My space opera, were I to write one, would go maybe a bit like this:
1) Infiltrate carebear corp with alpha toon. Act very upstanding. Try to get a title like "military fleet leader of cruiser operations" or some such.
2) post MERC advert in C&P with alpha toon (advertising your mining corp's merc services), threaten Marmites, Devils, Free Candy, etc... be borderline nasty. Then put something really incendiary against your main's own wardec corp that's blatantly untrue. Sign all posts with full military title(assistant director of cruiser defense services?). Don't tell anyone in the corp what you are doing. Try to think of ways to not get kicked out of the corp.
3) log back to main, wardec the carebear corp without contacting them.
4) When they contact you, demand to know who hired them and why the hell they are griefing you. Demand they drop the wardec or you'll try to mobilize the C&P fleets against them.
5) try to grow it into something all of C&P can enjoy. Let them create some emergent content! you may be able to get more participation by wardeccing another local bear corp and claiming they said that corp hired them to dec you.

Ps. There is original content here I haven't done before, but I've actually done something similar to this twice.

My space opera brings all the boys to the yard.
Mo
StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#58 - 2017-01-31 12:55:34 UTC
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
Red Forskin wrote:
Mobadder Thworst wrote:




I'll bet you I can randomly select a target, do something mean to him, take offense at his reaction, then post it here and even admitting all that... garner support against an innocent target by making it fun to support me.


Would it not be better to have a legitimate reason? At least in your own mind?

If you truly believed your target was deserving would that not make the payout even richer?



Your space opera is shallow and lacks for both fun and chaos.

My space opera, were I to write one, would go maybe a bit like this:
1) Infiltrate carebear corp with alpha toon. Act very upstanding. Try to get a title like "military fleet leader of cruiser operations" or some such.
2) post MERC advert in C&P with alpha toon (advertising your mining corp's merc services), threaten Marmites, Devils, Free Candy, etc... be borderline nasty. Then put something really incendiary against your main's own wardec corp that's blatantly untrue. Sign all posts with full military title(assistant director of cruiser defense services?). Don't tell anyone in the corp what you are doing. Try to think of ways to not get kicked out of the corp.
3) log back to main, wardec the carebear corp without contacting them.
4) When they contact you, demand to know who hired them and why the hell they are griefing you. Demand they drop the wardec or you'll try to mobilize the C&P fleets against them.
5) try to grow it into something all of C&P can enjoy. Let them create some emergent content! you may be able to get more participation by wardeccing another local bear corp and claiming they said that corp hired them to dec you.

Ps. There is original content here I haven't done before, but I've actually done something similar to this twice.

My space opera brings all the boys to the yard.
Mo


And damn right its better than his.

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.

Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#59 - 2017-01-31 13:30:44 UTC
He could teach you, but then he'd have to charge.

Bear

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

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Zander Moreau
Poor Fellow-Soldiers of James 315 and of Hek.
CODE.
#60 - 2017-02-25 00:13:12 UTC
Wow, Biovector, the depths of your paranoia knows no limits, does it?Lol

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