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[Loan] 20b / 5% / no collateral
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Survik Gaterau
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2017-01-26 00:57:01 UTC
Hello, i am BPO researcher and trader. I am owner of Survik Industries corporation which is one of the biggest BPO trade corps. I am currently facing possibility to buyout BPO collection for cheap price, however due to my investments elsewhere i currently dont have enough liquid isk to cover the trade. This loan is meant to cover trade operation. I am not used to ask for isk this way but well trade is just too good.

Entire loan will be paid back within a month.

Please send isk only to Survik Gaterau or Survik Industries. As i dont need more isk than what i asked for i will return any overpayments. Feel free to convo/mail me in game.

I reserve to send all isk immediately back if trade is cancelled. If not done within 24h since receiving isk 5% will apply.

Regards
Survik
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#2 - 2017-01-26 07:24:27 UTC
Even though your story is slightly better than other similar recent requests, you're probably not going to get 20b. You may not have collateral on hand, but there's a better way to do this since there is collateral available.

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Survik Gaterau
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2017-01-26 18:15:00 UTC
Still looking for 15b.
Chelian Dendrotoxin
Mamaroneck Trading Company
#4 - 2017-01-26 20:44:30 UTC
would liek . . . ah hell, y'all know what it is
Survik Gaterau
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2017-01-26 20:46:28 UTC
Chelian Dendrotoxin wrote:
would liek . . . ah hell, y'all know what it is


Sorry? Shocked
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
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#6 - 2017-01-26 23:48:34 UTC
Chelian Dendrotoxin wrote:
would liek . . . ah hell, y'all know what it is


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Cire Xinehp
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2017-01-27 00:09:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Cire Xinehp
How do you intend to repay the 15billion you still require if I were to lend it? Do you intend to buy the prints and resell them or is there another plan?

Feel free to send me a message and we may be able to work something out depending on the answer to the above question.
Survik Gaterau
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2017-01-27 08:16:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Survik Gaterau
Cire Xinehp wrote:
How do you intend to repay the 15billion you still require if I were to lend it? Do you intend to buy the prints and resell them or is there another plan?

Feel free to send me a message and we may be able to work something out depending on the answer to the above question.


Yes, thats the main plan. My "insurance" are materials that i bought in Catch. I set there buy orders during first days of invasion. TL;DR i bought 30b assets with only 5.5b. Spending 2b to "bribe" hostile JF pilot i should have access to most of these assets (excluding ~3b worth of trit and about 500M of assets not worth moving (eg. 5M worth in one station)) on monday.

Edit: I also have several bilions worth of BPOs that are ready to be sold (by that mentioned alt corp) and i have 5HS and 2NS (3rd NS soon) researchers that are researching more BPOs for sell.
Dethmourne Silvermane
Oasis United
#9 - 2017-01-27 08:21:35 UTC
Chelian Dendrotoxin wrote:
would liek . . . ah hell, y'all know what it is


Aww, c'mon, if you don't say 20b then the student who slept through "how to properly borrow money on MD" won't understand.

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Keno Skir
#10 - 2017-01-27 12:15:30 UTC
Survik Gaterau wrote:
Still looking for 15b.


Nobody has yet offered 5 Bil here on forums. This raises flags since you could just be pretending to have the first 5B to make your loan seem more legit. If a well known lender were to come on your thread and claim that 5B it might be a different story...

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Survik Gaterau
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2017-01-27 12:31:04 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:
Survik Gaterau wrote:
Still looking for 15b.


Nobody has yet offered 5 Bil here on forums. This raises flags since you could just be pretending to have the first 5B to make your loan seem more legit. If a well known lender were to come on your thread and claim that 5B it might be a different story...


I didnt say i got 5b on forum, just that i need 15b now not 20b ( corp wallet, another aprox. 700M are in personal wallets of my toons).
Ruvin
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2017-01-27 13:01:18 UTC
Survik Gaterau wrote:
Keno Skir wrote:
Survik Gaterau wrote:
Still looking for 15b.


Nobody has yet offered 5 Bil here on forums. This raises flags since you could just be pretending to have the first 5B to make your loan seem more legit. If a well known lender were to come on your thread and claim that 5B it might be a different story...


I didnt say i got 5b on forum, just that i need 15b now not 20b ( corp wallet, another aprox. 700M are in personal wallets of my toons).


#1 - 2017-01-26 00:57:01 topic started

#3 - 2017-01-26 18:15:00 5b acquired.

question 1 : how u acquired 5b on corp wallet in 17 hours ?
question 2 : if u already had them why ask 20b in first place ?

if u lowered the sum to seem more trust worthy you fall into : Keno Skir description.

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Survik Gaterau
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2017-01-27 13:42:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Survik Gaterau
Ruvin wrote:
Survik Gaterau wrote:
Keno Skir wrote:
Survik Gaterau wrote:
Still looking for 15b.


Nobody has yet offered 5 Bil here on forums. This raises flags since you could just be pretending to have the first 5B to make your loan seem more legit. If a well known lender were to come on your thread and claim that 5B it might be a different story...


I didnt say i got 5b on forum, just that i need 15b now not 20b ( corp wallet, another aprox. 700M are in personal wallets of my toons).


#1 - 2017-01-26 00:57:01 topic started

#3 - 2017-01-26 18:15:00 5b acquired.

question 1 : how u acquired 5b on corp wallet in 17 hours ?
question 2 : if u already had them why ask 20b in first place ?

if u lowered the sum to seem more trust worthy you fall into : Keno Skir description.



Had something on beginning, closed all my buy orders in Stain and all expensive in Jita and keep selling BPOs.

Edit: By that something i mean something around 1b.
Luthor Ikkala
Snow Moon City
Fraternity.
#14 - 2017-01-27 14:12:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Luthor Ikkala
This loan hasnt started well and most likely wont end well. I guess now its the time to re think this and withdraw the loan request
Survik Gaterau
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2017-01-27 14:19:34 UTC
Luthor Ikkala wrote:
This loan hasnt started well and most likely wont end well. I guess now its the time to re think this and withdraw the loan request


Well if its dont get filled, its ok. Its just a business after all. I will keep it up for as long as the trade opportunity, for which i opened this request, is available.
flakeys
Doomheim
#16 - 2017-01-28 14:19:25 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Survik Gaterau wrote:
I am owner of Survik Industries corporation which is one of the biggest BPO trade corps.



Wich makes me curious how much isk you actually have in bpo's since you claim to be the biggest BPO trade corp and yet the highest amount i hear you talk about 5B here , 7B there and so on and on contracts it does show that corp has bpo's for sale but the most expensive one is 18 mille.Now i don't know how your competition currently is but during my bpo time i was dealing with about 400B in bpo sales and still was far from being 'the biggest bpo trader'.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Survik Gaterau
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2017-01-28 15:02:30 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Survik Gaterau wrote:
I am owner of Survik Industries corporation which is one of the biggest BPO trade corps.



Wich makes me curious how much isk you actually have in bpo's since you claim to be the biggest BPO trade corp and yet the highest amount i hear you talk about 5B here , 7B there and so on and on contracts it does show that corp has bpo's for sale but the most expensive one is 18 mille.Now i don't know how your competition currently is but during my bpo time i was dealing with about 400B in bpo sales and still was far from being 'the biggest bpo trader'.


I meant in amount. I have about 250 contracts all the time up. I dont really compare to value of BPOs, as any T2 BPO trader would easily win that match. The most expensive are 200M. Idk where you got 18M. 18M contracts make it barely to end of the first page when contracts are sorted by price. With my undercutting I dont hold expensive BPOs for more then week or two.

Estimated price of all BPOs i have (meaning if they all were 0/0) is about 34b. That includes my personal collection and BPOs in research. Its real price is, however, hard to tell as i always gave up trying to price even just my own collection.
Chelian Dendrotoxin
Mamaroneck Trading Company
#18 - 2017-01-28 15:14:35 UTC
Dethmourne Silvermane wrote:
Chelian Dendrotoxin wrote:
would liek . . . ah hell, y'all know what it is


Aww, c'mon, if you don't say 20b then the student who slept through "how to properly borrow money on MD" won't understand.


Sigh, you're right, I have an obligation here, I suppose.
flakeys
Doomheim
#19 - 2017-01-28 15:54:52 UTC
Survik Gaterau wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Survik Gaterau wrote:
I am owner of Survik Industries corporation which is one of the biggest BPO trade corps.



Wich makes me curious how much isk you actually have in bpo's since you claim to be the biggest BPO trade corp and yet the highest amount i hear you talk about 5B here , 7B there and so on and on contracts it does show that corp has bpo's for sale but the most expensive one is 18 mille.Now i don't know how your competition currently is but during my bpo time i was dealing with about 400B in bpo sales and still was far from being 'the biggest bpo trader'.


I meant in amount. I have about 250 contracts all the time up. I dont really compare to value of BPOs, as any T2 BPO trader would easily win that match. The most expensive are 200M. Idk where you got 18M. 18M contracts make it barely to end of the first page when contracts are sorted by price. With my undercutting I dont hold expensive BPOs for more then week or two.

Estimated price of all BPOs i have (meaning if they all were 0/0) is about 34b. That includes my personal collection and BPOs in research. Its real price is, however, hard to tell as i always gave up trying to price even just my own collection.



The 16 mille was corpwise , i searched for contracts from that corp and sorted by price.That said , your wording made it appear as being the biggest in regards to isk amount hence why i was confused you where only talking about 'small isk' when talking about your expenditures.If you meant in amount on contract then yeah that makes it a completely different ballgame and makes sense.

That said , uncollateralised first loan and asking 20B is likely not going to happen.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Survik Gaterau
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2017-01-28 16:17:49 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Survik Gaterau wrote:
flakeys wrote:
[quote=Survik Gaterau] I am owner of Survik Industries corporation which is one of the biggest BPO trade corps.



Wich makes me curious how much isk you actually have in bpo's since you claim to be the biggest BPO trade corp and yet the highest amount i hear you talk about 5B here , 7B there and so on and on contracts it does show that corp has bpo's for sale but the most expensive one is 18 mille.Now i don't know how your competition currently is but during my bpo time i was dealing with about 400B in bpo sales and still was far from being 'the biggest bpo trader'.


I meant in amount. I have about 250 contracts all the time up. I dont really compare to value of BPOs, as any T2 BPO trader would easily win that match. The most expensive are 200M. Idk where you got 18M. 18M contracts make it barely to end of the first page when contracts are sorted by price. With my undercutting I dont hold expensive BPOs for more then week or two.

Estimated price of all BPOs i have (meaning if they all were 0/0) is about 34b. That includes my personal collection and BPOs in research. Its real price is, however, hard to tell as i always gave up trying to price even just my own collection.



The 16 mille was corpwise , i searched for contracts from that corp and sorted by price.That said , your wording made it appear as being the biggest in regards to isk amount hence why i was confused you where only talking about 'small isk' when talking about your expenditures.If you meant in amount on contract then yeah that makes it a completely different ballgame and makes sense.

That said , uncollateralised first loan and asking 20B is likely not going to happen.[/quote

Well need just 14b now. Anyway, problem is that my Jita assets cannot cover entire loan. I have about 7b in BPOs (excluding 10/20 that i need for sell). Then 191 storyline BPCs, 189 T2 BPCs, about 250M in faction BPCs, and 2k regular BPCs, still it doesnt cover 14b. All my other assets are in null.
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