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de Obliviator Preon
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2017-01-24 13:23:12 UTC
So, I got it, in Amarr Empire there is a princess that can be assasinated. But how do they elect her? And other races, like, is there is a Gallente Senate, or something?
Skyweir Kinnison
Doomheim
#2 - 2017-01-24 13:42:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Skyweir Kinnison
The Amarr Empire is ruled by an Empress (at present). Her predecessor was indeed assassinated by the Drifters. A new Emperor/Empress is selected from one of the Heirs, each being the head of a specific family entitled to put themselves forward for selection. These each choose champions from among capsuleers, and these champions fight it out, the winner putting their patron onto the throne, and the losing Heirs having to commit suicide.

The Gallente Federation is a representative democracy, with a president elected every five years, and an elected Senate. Each planet or collections of planets many have differing forms of democracy for their own assemblies. You may imagine the federal level as a kind of fusion between the French Republic and the United States system.

The Caldari State is less a formal state than a political oligarchy made up of huge megacorporations. Not so long ago, it was a fully fascist state that sidelined the megacorporations, but now it's best thought of as a giant Hanseatic League with strong overtones of Japanese corporate governance.

The Minmatar Republic is now a tribal council, somewhat loosely defined as to how this works. The heads of the major tribes meet in council to govern, with a head 'chief' the Sanmatar. They used to be a parliamentary-style republic, but decided this had been imposed on them by their major benefactor, the Federation and rejected the premise as corrupt.

This is an extremely broad-brush summary of a fairly complex lore. You can read up in much more depth in various places that cover the lore, and if really interested, there is an excellent book called Eve Source.

Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.

de Obliviator Preon
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2017-01-26 11:55:04 UTC
Skyweir Kinnison wrote:
The Amarr Empire is ruled by an Empress (at present). Her predecessor was indeed assassinated by the Drifters. A new Emperor/Empress is selected from one of the Heirs, each being the head of a specific family entitled to put themselves forward for selection. These each choose champions from among capsuleers, and these champions fight it out, the winner putting their patron onto the throne, and the losing Heirs having to commit suicide.

The Gallente Federation is a representative democracy, with a president elected every five years, and an elected Senate. Each planet or collections of planets many have differing forms of democracy for their own assemblies. You may imagine the federal level as a kind of fusion between the French Republic and the United States system.

The Caldari State is less a formal state than a political oligarchy made up of huge megacorporations. Not so long ago, it was a fully fascist state that sidelined the megacorporations, but now it's best thought of as a giant Hanseatic League with strong overtones of Japanese corporate governance.

The Minmatar Republic is now a tribal council, somewhat loosely defined as to how this works. The heads of the major tribes meet in council to govern, with a head 'chief' the Sanmatar. They used to be a parliamentary-style republic, but decided this had been imposed on them by their major benefactor, the Federation and rejected the premise as corrupt.

This is an extremely broad-brush summary of a fairly complex lore. You can read up in much more depth in various places that cover the lore, and if really interested, there is an excellent book called Eve Source.

How can a person become part of the government?
Wombat65Au Egdald
R I S E
#4 - 2017-01-26 12:14:34 UTC
A player cannot become a member of an NPC empire's government. A player also cannot reach a high level of authority/management in an NPC corporation. We players are all just common plebs. The type/style of government for each NCP empire is background decoration as far as players are concerned.

CCP makes all final decisions about what happens to each empire and NPC corp. If you are the type of player who wants to role play, have a look in the Intergalactic Summit sub-forum here, Players who take a strong interest in the background story of Eve discuss it there and some people write fan-fiction about Eve in there as well. From time to time CCP will see something they like and find a way to add it to the official game background, but a player cannot be a member of any NPC empire's government, or run an NPC corp.

Memphis Baas
#5 - 2017-01-26 19:32:50 UTC
de Obliviator Preon wrote:
So, I got it, in Amarr Empire there is a princess that can be assasinated. But how do they elect her?


Roll

If it says Amarr EMPIRE then they have an EMPEROR / EMPRESS, not a princess (actually ruling). They don't elect the emperor with votes, they have 5 grand noble houses and the 5 lords of those (by lineage) houses basically fight each other for the right to become the emperor. The one who wins becomes emperor, the other 4 have to commit suicide. Each generation their heirs basically repeat the pattern.

Gallente Federation is a democracy so they have a president and he gets elected.

Caldari State is a corporate dictatorship, so they have 5-6? huge megacorporations and the CEO's of those corporations basically rule, each in complete control over their corp and all the planets that the corp owns, and all the people on those planets. There are no elections within the corps; each CEO gets promoted based on merit / how bad ass and manipulative they are.

Minmatar Republic is also a democracy I think but they have more like a tribal structure, so the "elders" of each great tribe are in a ruling council.
de Obliviator Preon
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2017-01-26 19:33:43 UTC
Wombat65Au Egdald wrote:
A player cannot become a member of an NPC empire's government. A player also cannot reach a high level of authority/management in an NPC corporation. We players are all just common plebs. The type/style of government for each NCP empire is background decoration as far as players are concerned.

CCP makes all final decisions about what happens to each empire and NPC corp. If you are the type of player who wants to role play, have a look in the Intergalactic Summit sub-forum here, Players who take a strong interest in the background story of Eve discuss it there and some people write fan-fiction about Eve in there as well. From time to time CCP will see something they like and find a way to add it to the official game background, but a player cannot be a member of any NPC empire's government, or run an NPC corp.


What about diplomatic goverment of Galente?
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#7 - 2017-01-26 20:21:57 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
de Obliviator Preon wrote:
Wombat65Au Egdald wrote:
A player cannot become a member of an NPC empire's government. A player also cannot reach a high level of authority/management in an NPC corporation. We players are all just common plebs. The type/style of government for each NCP empire is background decoration as far as players are concerned.

CCP makes all final decisions about what happens to each empire and NPC corp. If you are the type of player who wants to role play, have a look in the Intergalactic Summit sub-forum here, Players who take a strong interest in the background story of Eve discuss it there and some people write fan-fiction about Eve in there as well. From time to time CCP will see something they like and find a way to add it to the official game background, but a player cannot be a member of any NPC empire's government, or run an NPC corp.


What about diplomatic goverment of Galente?

You can't become part of any NPC government or ruling body. At all.

You can role play as a person belonging to the government... but you cannot actually BE the government.


In this game, almost everything is player driven. The NPCs are mostly around for "flavor."
de Obliviator Preon
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2017-01-26 20:54:10 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
de Obliviator Preon wrote:
Wombat65Au Egdald wrote:
A player cannot become a member of an NPC empire's government. A player also cannot reach a high level of authority/management in an NPC corporation. We players are all just common plebs. The type/style of government for each NCP empire is background decoration as far as players are concerned.

CCP makes all final decisions about what happens to each empire and NPC corp. If you are the type of player who wants to role play, have a look in the Intergalactic Summit sub-forum here, Players who take a strong interest in the background story of Eve discuss it there and some people write fan-fiction about Eve in there as well. From time to time CCP will see something they like and find a way to add it to the official game background, but a player cannot be a member of any NPC empire's government, or run an NPC corp.


What about diplomatic goverment of Galente?

You can't become part of any NPC government or ruling body. At all.

You can role play as a person belonging to the government... but you cannot actually BE the government.


In this game, almost everything is player driven. The NPCs are mostly around for "flavor."

Creators are boring... once again...
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#9 - 2017-01-26 20:58:58 UTC
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#10 - 2017-01-26 22:01:29 UTC
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Creators are boring... once again...

Dare I ask; in what way?

You can go out and say you are the "Undersecretary of on the Federation Representstives." It is that easy.

But if you are wanting to be in a position of "authority" then you are going to have to rally other players, not NPCs, to you and your will.

This is a multiplayer game after all.
Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2017-01-26 22:08:42 UTC
None of you mentioned the fact that capsuleers played a major part in the choosing of the new leader of the Amarr?

Or mentioned the plitical landscape looming on the horizon of the CSM elections?

tsk

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Mike Azariah  ┬──┬ ¯|(ツ)

Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#12 - 2017-01-26 22:50:32 UTC
There was a huge event of player versus player trials that decided the royal family of Tash-Murkon's house was going to be the next Empress. She's Caitiz Tash-Murkon I, and there's loads of lore about her, her house, family, region, etc.

I loiter in the #lore part of the tweetfleet slack and CCP Falcon and friends were sort of teasing how 2020 (irl year) is the next election for the head of the Minmatar Republic (same as the next US election)

blahh.

@lunettelulu7

ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2017-01-27 03:08:23 UTC
de Obliviator Preon wrote:

Creators are boring... once again...

Eve is a sandbox. The game intentionally focuses on player created content. CCP just maintains the sandbox. It could be argued that as a result of that the creators of this game have created one of the most exciting MMOs ever.

We are not useless peasants in this game but each player is a god / empire in and of himself. You can choose to realize that to the fullest extent that you can push it or you can just lay back and chill. The choice is yours.

In other games all that you can do if follow a storyline that someone else created and which is the same exact storyline for everyone that plays the game. In Eve we all have different stories. The big drama in Eve is not about what some imaginary character did that you have to try and get into their story, it's about what you and your friends actually did.

For example in the fiction world people can ask if you saw the new Star Wars movie or read the latest Harry Poter book. In Eve people ask if "you were there when....".

If you ask me the boring creators are the ones that make the other games. But, as my grandmother says, "to each his own".

I'm not claiming any rightness or wrongness here I'm just saying that if you are looking for scripted gameplay then you came to the exact wrong game.

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de Obliviator Preon
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2017-01-28 00:58:30 UTC
ergherhdfgh wrote:
de Obliviator Preon wrote:

Creators are boring... once again...

Eve is a sandbox. The game intentionally focuses on player created content. CCP just maintains the sandbox. It could be argued that as a result of that the creators of this game have created one of the most exciting MMOs ever.

We are not useless peasants in this game but each player is a god / empire in and of himself. You can choose to realize that to the fullest extent that you can push it or you can just lay back and chill. The choice is yours.

In other games all that you can do if follow a storyline that someone else created and which is the same exact storyline for everyone that plays the game. In Eve we all have different stories. The big drama in Eve is not about what some imaginary character did that you have to try and get into their story, it's about what you and your friends actually did.

For example in the fiction world people can ask if you saw the new Star Wars movie or read the latest Harry Poter book. In Eve people ask if "you were there when....".

If you ask me the boring creators are the ones that make the other games. But, as my grandmother says, "to each his own".

I'm not claiming any rightness or wrongness here I'm just saying that if you are looking for scripted gameplay then you came to the exact wrong game.

We are peasants, because, if some race decided to bring war to an end, and almost have killed all the other races, Creators would just kill the guy who started the Rebellion.
Wombat65Au Egdald
R I S E
#15 - 2017-01-28 03:07:56 UTC
Eve is not a Hello Kitty MMO in space. https://crossingzebras.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/wallpaper-hello-kitty-apoc.png

Player cooperation and player conflict are the two most important content generators in the game. They have been the most important content generators in Eve the entire time Eve has been running, which is over 11 years now. Why would CCP suddenly change the focus of their #1 income earner?
de Obliviator Preon
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2017-01-28 19:05:34 UTC
Wombat65Au Egdald wrote:
Eve is not a Hello Kitty MMO in space. https://crossingzebras.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/wallpaper-hello-kitty-apoc.png

Player cooperation and player conflict are the two most important content generators in the game. They have been the most important content generators in Eve the entire time Eve has been running, which is over 11 years now. Why would CCP suddenly change the focus of their #1 income earner?

I hatell Hello Kitty.
Akane Togenada
Doomheim
#17 - 2017-01-28 20:08:21 UTC
EVE might lack many things but politics are NOT one of them. I can´t think of a single game where we players can have such a huge effect on the world itself as in EVE:s New Eden. Sure if you stay in High-Sec (Empire Space) and try to stay away from player interaction you won´t make a big difference but due to New Edens single-shard nature everyone makes a difference if only in a small way.

It is this nature where the butterfly effect is a very real thing that makes EVE such a different game in the MMO-genre compared to "Hero games" such as WoW and the likes. Personally I like being given the choice of actively trying to effect as much as possible or trying to stay under the radar while carving out my own personal slice of New Eden.

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#18 - 2017-01-29 07:57:33 UTC
Akane Togenada wrote:
EVE might lack many things but politics are NOT one of them. I can´t think of a single game where we players can have such a huge effect on the world itself as in EVE:s New Eden. Sure if you stay in High-Sec (Empire Space) and try to stay away from player interaction you won´t make a big difference but due to New Edens single-shard nature everyone makes a difference if only in a small way.

It is this nature where the butterfly effect is a very real thing that makes EVE such a different game in the MMO-genre compared to "Hero games" such as WoW and the likes. Personally I like being given the choice of actively trying to effect as much as possible or trying to stay under the radar while carving out my own personal slice of New Eden.

Indeed.

I am probably indirectly responsible for many, many blown up ships due to the newbies I have encouraged into (and helped become good at) PVP.

Twisted