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How to tell what rig bonuses are available in an engineering complex?
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Kass Kado
Space Fukery
#1 - 2017-01-25 16:15:55 UTC
By looking in the Facility tab in the Industry window, i can hover over the "Manufacturing" icon for each engineering complex in the region and see if there's a rig bonus for different ship types, which is great, but im trying to find an azbel that has an Component Manufacturing Efficiency rig, for an ME bonus to components, but the list seems to show everything BUT components. Any way to tell which complex has this rig installed?
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2017-01-25 17:44:49 UTC
Kass Kado wrote:
By looking in the Facility tab in the Industry window, i can hover over the "Manufacturing" icon for each engineering complex in the region and see if there's a rig bonus for different ship types, which is great, but im trying to find an azbel that has an Component Manufacturing Efficiency rig, for an ME bonus to components, but the list seems to show everything BUT components. Any way to tell which complex has this rig installed?

You found the way already, browse over the plant icon (only those with a "+" are rigged) and check what stuff is bonused. Manual search, no short cut.

I'm my own NPC alt.
Kass Kado
Space Fukery
#3 - 2017-01-25 18:06:05 UTC
I did the manual search, there is no "Components" in the list of "Types supported". There's everything but components. I did find one azbel, but only because the person had named it "Components", nothing was listed in as bonused, but it does have the rig
Kass Kado
Space Fukery
#4 - 2017-01-25 18:10:06 UTC
Found a way... not ideal, but for anyone else looking, just open a component blueprint in industry preview mode, click current region in facilities tab, and just down arrow key through all the citadels and watch for the materials required to drop.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2017-01-25 18:24:25 UTC
Kass Kado wrote:
Found a way... not ideal, but for anyone else looking, just open a component blueprint in industry preview mode, click current region in facilities tab, and just down arrow key through all the citadels and watch for the materials required to drop.

Sure, components is not the term here. So if you found one, check the popover for the bonus on which stuff ... got it?

I'm my own NPC alt.
Kass Kado
Space Fukery
#6 - 2017-01-25 18:39:58 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Kass Kado wrote:
Found a way... not ideal, but for anyone else looking, just open a component blueprint in industry preview mode, click current region in facilities tab, and just down arrow key through all the citadels and watch for the materials required to drop.

Sure, components is not the term here. So if you found one, check the popover for the bonus on which stuff ... got it?



Wow, thanks helpie helperton!

Read what i said.... the entire point of this thread is that there is NOTHING listed as a bonus on the popup when a complex has the component bonus rig... got it?

In any case, the way I found is much quicker for finding rig bonuses than scrolling through a popup for each one.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#7 - 2017-01-25 20:15:52 UTC
Kass Kado wrote:
the entire point of this thread is that there is NOTHING listed as a bonus on the popup when a complex has the component bonus rig

Please file a bug report for that.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2017-01-26 08:55:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
Kass Kado wrote:
Tipa Riot wrote:
Kass Kado wrote:
Found a way... not ideal, but for anyone else looking, just open a component blueprint in industry preview mode, click current region in facilities tab, and just down arrow key through all the citadels and watch for the materials required to drop.

Sure, components is not the term here. So if you found one, check the popover for the bonus on which stuff ... got it?



Wow, thanks helpie helperton!

Read what i said.... the entire point of this thread is that there is NOTHING listed as a bonus on the popup when a complex has the component bonus rig... got it?

In any case, the way I found is much quicker for finding rig bonuses than scrolling through a popup for each one.

I did a quick scan yesterday from Jita and found no public Azbel within 10j having an advanced component or equipment bonus rig. If the popover does not display a bonus, there is no rig. I don't think there is a display bug, but just nobody fits these rigs on public facilities.

I'm my own NPC alt.
Don Silesius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2017-01-26 15:00:50 UTC
On a similar note, I’ve been having issues trying to figure out if the Rigs on a Complex are T1 or T2. Is there a way to see that other than by knowing what are the bonus for T1 and T2?

For example I have been using this blueprint calculator: https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprint/

I can enter some info about the EC where I’m producing stuff, but I failed to figure out if this EC has T1 or T2 rigs yet. I guess it’s not like the biggest difference in the world, but I would like to know if there is an obvious thing I’m missing here.

Thanks in advance, and it’s my first post here but I’ve been reading you guys since I joined in late December and I learned a lot reading your discussions, so thanks for that aswell.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2017-01-26 15:52:44 UTC
Don Silesius wrote:
On a similar note, I’ve been having issues trying to figure out if the Rigs on a Complex are T1 or T2. Is there a way to see that other than by knowing what are the bonus for T1 and T2?

You can ask the owner, but else I only know the option to popover the plant or blueprint in industry view and check the bonus value.

I'm my own NPC alt.
Don Silesius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2017-01-26 16:03:50 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Don Silesius wrote:
On a similar note, I’ve been having issues trying to figure out if the Rigs on a Complex are T1 or T2. Is there a way to see that other than by knowing what are the bonus for T1 and T2?

You can ask the owner, but else I only know the option to popover the plant or blueprint in industry view and check the bonus value.


OK, thanks. When I mouse over Manufacturing facility of this EC in industry view, it says "-2.0% (Rigs)" on a bunch of different types. That means it’s T2 rigs for Material consumption, right? And T1 would be "-1.0%"?

Thanks a lot for the help.
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2017-01-26 17:16:42 UTC
T1 rigs give 2%

T2 rigs give 2.4%

oh, and btw: you are correct about components. they do not seem to appear on the list. i'll try and remember to file a report later once i get home to my PC. but you should do aswell, i'm a rather forgetfull person every now and then
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#13 - 2017-01-27 16:42:39 UTC
I build a Raitaru on Singularity to test this. It's fitted with The Standup M-Set Advanced Component Manufacturing Material Efficiency I and The Standup M-Set Equipment Manufacturing Material Efficiency I rigs. Both rigs apply the expected bonus when I load blueprints.

The tooltip in the facilities tab of the industry tool shows rig bonuses for deployable, implant and module which indicate the presence of the Equipment manufacturing rig. There is no indication that an advanced component rig is installed.

The workaround is to load a blueprint, select different ECs and hover over the bill of material icon to the left of the blueprint and the job duration - they will show any rig bonus for ME or TE respectively.

Bug report submitted.
Zerzzes Markarian
McCloud and Markarian Trade and Logistics Corp.
#14 - 2017-02-15 10:35:33 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Kass Kado wrote:
Tipa Riot wrote:
Kass Kado wrote:
Found a way... not ideal, but for anyone else looking, just open a component blueprint in industry preview mode, click current region in facilities tab, and just down arrow key through all the citadels and watch for the materials required to drop.

Sure, components is not the term here. So if you found one, check the popover for the bonus on which stuff ... got it?



Wow, thanks helpie helperton!

Read what i said.... the entire point of this thread is that there is NOTHING listed as a bonus on the popup when a complex has the component bonus rig... got it?

In any case, the way I found is much quicker for finding rig bonuses than scrolling through a popup for each one.

I did a quick scan yesterday from Jita and found no public Azbel within 10j having an advanced component or equipment bonus rig. If the popover does not display a bonus, there is no rig. I don't think there is a display bug, but just nobody fits these rigs on public facilities.


Reading isn't your strenght, right? As written above, THERE IS NO ENTRY FOR COMPONENTS. There are public Complexes within 10 Jumps of Jita which have the Advanced Material Rig installed, but this doesn't shows up at the tooltip, because THERE IS NO ENTRY FOR COMPONENTS
Zerzzes Markarian
McCloud and Markarian Trade and Logistics Corp.
#15 - 2017-02-15 10:41:31 UTC
Kass Kado wrote:
Found a way... not ideal, but for anyone else looking, just open a component blueprint in industry preview mode, click current region in facilities tab, and just down arrow key through all the citadels and watch for the materials required to drop.


I was looking for a way to find this out for ages. I didn't know that you can select different facilities for a blueprint. Thanks alot, that makes my lfe much easier.