Player Features and Ideas Discussion

but he did give a reason don't you remember



he said it would be better that way we just have to trust him

there is already a chance of counter play all this does is


i warp to grid

see them shining

before i have even landed i'm spamming warp because as far as i know there are 20 supers on the other end (even though odds are its 1BB/CV)

to be fair it has made hot drops more common however they are now drops that are not 100% your screwed and a lot of the time you can get good fights out of them


generally a carrier/fax drop or a small blops fleet. rather than a ball of pl supers

Then at least state which ship should be allowed to run cynos since it is a hugely important point. Right now, it feels like you want cynos to have a mention along the line of "Can only be fitted to force recon ship and combat recon ship." which would put a heavy cost on anyone just trying to run logistic for alliance deep in null sec for example. Your cyno alt you use to get stuff moved become a rather invested alt...

oh cool so now on top of fuel costs i need to spend about 80mil on a suicide command dessi any time i need to move goods


not to mention cynos put your vel to 0 and we all know just how long a DD sitting at 0 lasts. hell you probably couldn't even manage to r-click jump in that time even w/o lagg

So you expect corp/alliance logistics to source multiple command destroyer + alts skilled into it to move stuff around? Have you ever run logistics for any size of corp/alliance to have an idea what this mean for them and by association, any line member fed by those jump freighter services?

You also expect a 0 velocity DD hull to withstand any kind of pressure long enough for people to be able to click jump, let alone setup a bridge and then clicking the titan and selecting jump?

Any bait with a dedicated **** would be absolutely impossible to miss since those whip would have the "cyno ship" label attached to them. Your idea of having the cyno ship in another system waiting means you might as well make a log-off trap because of the system jump + align + warp + deceleration + cyno up + jump time delay will be too long to be usable.

you don't understand this guy only gets dropped on he has no idea the amount of effort and organization JFs take let alone a hot drop.

as far as he is concerned cynos are some how just "i win buttons"

Converselycynos are probably the best tool for harassing well set up alliances in their own space

Please think before posting. Your suggestion has massive effects on all of the things I mentioned that you are refusing to even consider.

If you don't think that limiting cynos to a command destroyer hull is going to hurt ratters dropping their friends on your face, then you seriously need to sit in the corner and have a nice long think.

No, you haven't commented on any of those things and that is why your OP and your idea sucks.

"The cyno is an outdated mechanic." Yet you fail to explain why. People still use it and it is still useful...so how is it outdated? Is it like a gallon of milk left too long in the fridge?

"They cyno is unbalanced." Again you fail to explain why this is the case. As has been pointed out the cyno is only one part of the thing you are complaining about. There is the need for the jump portal generator and the fleet to be able to do what you are complaining about.

The cyno is also a way to turn the tables on a group. For example, a gate camp will likely see a larger hostile force coming and bugger off well before there is even a chance to engage. But with a heavily tanked cyno ship that can be changed. But putting in a dedicated cyno ship and restricting cynos on all other ships basically says, "Okay, every one bugger off here come the cyno and the larger gang."

Your suggestion, quite simply, reduces uncertainty and uncertainty is part of what makes this game fun and interesting. Does that ship have a cyno should be a good question. By putting in a dedicated cyno ship there is now no doubt. Yes, that ship has a cyno.

Nope, -1.