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Maldiro Selkurk
Radiation Sickness
#41 - 2017-01-20 16:34:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Maldiro Selkurk
Code Redd wrote:
OP, i take your suggestion and raise it to... reasonable... maybe.

New type of corp--indy corp. Cant be war dec'd at all, UNLESS they have a citadel, in empire space. If they have one of those, they can be dec'd. They can have them in null.

Second, they are safety-locked GREEN. Cant even switch to yellow.

Third, they have a BASE tax rate of 11%, that goes directly to CCP. The corp tax rate can be higher than that, but the first 11% goes to CCP.

Fourth, like yours, they cannot join FW, or any other war-decable organization. An alliance too can be an industrial type .. but it would compound the tax rate, so the base rate would be 22%. The tax rate would also apply to LP rewards in missions and incursions.

This, i feel, would discourage them from using the corps as shelters for mission runners. It would totally disable the use of the corp for gankers and pvprs alike (outside null sec).

It has some strong drawbacks, and some strong upsides.


I like that you're working with me on developing an idea here but:

1) I would prefer they didnt have access to anchorable assets after thinking about the idea for awhile. It starts to become more and more like a regular corporation. In fact it might be necessary to set the restrictions of the indy corp to account wide to further discourage the abuse of this new corp type. However, if after implementation nobody is using the new corp type because having zero possibility of anchorable assets outside highsec then an adjustment could be made providing it then didnt make all corps want to be industrial corps.

2) The tax issue gives me some pause but it could be tried and see if the drawback is so serious that nobody uses the new corporation type. I personally have a one man corp to avoid taxation and still could be used in indy corps as i currently exist so im not sure the taxation part is necessary but again it could be tried and then check on the results.

3) locking into green only status could be tried also and see if this works or has such a serious drawback that it again kills the concept.

Yawn,  I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Maldiro Selkurk
Radiation Sickness
#42 - 2017-01-20 16:45:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Maldiro Selkurk
Nat Silverguard wrote:
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Why is it unrealistic to have a combat wing? What about mission runners in your corp?


because once your combat wing enjoyed the combat they will want to do combat and will drift away from the indy stuff.

that's what happened to my corp (years before i joined), there's even an article about them when they were still an indy corp.

http://www.gameskinny.com/5b56a/exploring-eve-online-4-the-aura-of-aideron-robotics



Economics is the reason, predatory corps in highsec make a lot of ISK from those corporations and as such the economics allow for their existence but for an industrial corp it is exactly the opposite you arent ganking billions from hauling ships and in fact every ship you have floating around highsec with a combat pilot is a serious drain on your economic situation and this is why this model doesnt exist now.

Mission runners could be allowed as long as you cannot group up to do them. I dont see that restricting them from mission running really impacts this new corp idea such that it would be game breaking if you could take a couple days to run some missions to break up your industrial occupation game play but if you can see some reason that it would be game breaking i would be open to further discussion of the idea. I want industrial corps to have as many options available to them as possible while preventing abuse of the new corp type.

Yawn,  I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Maldiro Selkurk
Radiation Sickness
#43 - 2017-01-20 17:12:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Maldiro Selkurk
i just realized something about mission running or incursions and the like, these combat ships are NOT excluded from the wardec if your indy corp is wardeced only a select few types of ships would be subject to the wardec exclusion, all combat based ships would treated normally if your corporation was wardeced so mission and incursion running would probably have to be done on an alt and using alts to avoid wardecs.

Yawn,  I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#44 - 2017-01-20 17:46:27 UTC
Maldiro Selkurk wrote:
i just realized something about mission running or incursions and the like, these combat ships are NOT excluded from the wardec if your indy corp is wardeced only a select few types of ships would be subject to the wardec exclusion, all combat based ships would treated normally if your corporation was wardeced so mission and incursion running would probably have to be done on an alt and using alts to avoid wardecs already happens.




surly then we need another one of these corps for mission runners

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