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Ji7 Aldard
Shield Nation
Rising Dominion
#1 - 2017-01-18 12:14:49 UTC
wouldnt it be nice to have a blueprint case with capacity something like 2m3? basicly like a small container just smaller.

it would make organising BPOs and specialy BPCs in sets alot better managable.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#2 - 2017-01-18 13:16:04 UTC
... what's wrong with the already existing containers

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2017-01-18 18:31:49 UTC
How will it make it any easier than using cans like we do now?
Ji7 Aldard
Shield Nation
Rising Dominion
#4 - 2017-01-19 01:06:46 UTC
the problem with existing containers is they are still too large for BPOs/BPCs

120m3 = 12000 blueprints

now imagine you want to get 10 build sets for different things and you dont want to bpcs to get mixed.... now you have to fly an industrial to cary the 1000m3 the small containers take up. also you cant load small containers on a freighter.. so you would have to use 10000m3 cans for blueprints..... or you can just mix them in and spend the next hour spliting the stacks when you get then to your destinatin.


and TBH... I play to have fun and not bo be sorting documents... I get enough of that at work. and as many still not understand, this is a game not a second unpayed job :D
Shu t'Me
#5 - 2017-01-19 04:22:28 UTC
I support this idea.

Having all your bookmarks in an readily identifiable container makes things so much easier when you're moving them and I cargo scan you. Doesn't matter if you've got anything in it, either. My cargo scan may have just missed it.
Old Pervert
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2017-01-19 08:30:12 UTC
Ji7 Aldard wrote:

and TBH... I play to have fun and not bo be sorting documents... I get enough of that at work. and as many still not understand, this is a game not a second unpayed job :D

Hah, well, it will never be an unpayed job.

In some form or another (time to get isk for plex, or cash to sub the account), you're paying CCP for your job.
Vendo Carllsmann
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#7 - 2017-01-19 16:58:22 UTC
It's especially annoying when you have a load of BPCs for a particular item and they won't stack. I get it that stacking BPCs which have different research values or remaining runs would not be a good idea but if you have, say, 50 fully researched 10 run Caracal BPCs they should stack.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2017-01-19 18:39:23 UTC
Ji7 Aldard wrote:
the problem with existing containers is they are still too large for BPOs/BPCs

120m3 = 12000 blueprints

now imagine you want to get 10 build sets for different things and you dont want to bpcs to get mixed.... now you have to fly an industrial to cary the 1000m3 the small containers take up. also you cant load small containers on a freighter.. so you would have to use 10000m3 cans for blueprints..... or you can just mix them in and spend the next hour spliting the stacks when you get then to your destinatin.


and TBH... I play to have fun and not bo be sorting documents... I get enough of that at work. and as many still not understand, this is a game not a second unpayed job :D


I don't understand the problem. How is it possible for a can to be too big, unless you're trying to haul huge numbers of blueprints in an interceptor?

And...I don't own a freighter, why can't you use small cans in one? (Personally, I move mine in a DST or a blockade runner. 1000m3 is not a big ask for anyone with halfway decent industrial skills.)
Lugh Crow-Slave
#9 - 2017-01-19 18:52:48 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Ji7 Aldard wrote:
the problem with existing containers is they are still too large for BPOs/BPCs

120m3 = 12000 blueprints

now imagine you want to get 10 build sets for different things and you dont want to bpcs to get mixed.... now you have to fly an industrial to cary the 1000m3 the small containers take up. also you cant load small containers on a freighter.. so you would have to use 10000m3 cans for blueprints..... or you can just mix them in and spend the next hour spliting the stacks when you get then to your destinatin.


and TBH... I play to have fun and not bo be sorting documents... I get enough of that at work. and as many still not understand, this is a game not a second unpayed job :D


I don't understand the problem. How is it possible for a can to be too big, unless you're trying to haul huge numbers of blueprints in an interceptor?

And...I don't own a freighter, why can't you use small cans in one? (Personally, I move mine in a DST or a blockade runner. 1000m3 is not a big ask for anyone with halfway decent industrial skills.)



i'm just as confused as you. having had to handle large numbers of alliance level bops and bpc through several large moves i have never had an issue

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Ji7 Aldard
Shield Nation
Rising Dominion
#10 - 2017-01-19 19:56:47 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:

I don't understand the problem. How is it possible for a can to be too big, unless you're trying to haul huge numbers of blueprints in an interceptor?

And...I don't own a freighter, why can't you use small cans in one? (Personally, I move mine in a DST or a blockade runner. 1000m3 is not a big ask for anyone with halfway decent industrial skills.)


yes that is exactly the problem.. I dont want to fly an industrial just to be able to keep the BPC sets separated in a 120m3 cans with 119m3 left in each of them.

Im able to move 1000 bpcs with a frig why should I switch to an industrial just so I can keep them organised? and if you dont understand this then you are a masochist or something.
also what takes few minutes in a frig takes half an hour even in the most agile industrials... in RL you also dont take a truck to move 10x10 pages of paper.

you cant use small cans in a freighter because CCP says so.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2017-01-19 20:05:19 UTC
I agree. 100m3 is not small enough to be the smallest container. Often I have wished that my everything-frigate could hold a container without it taking up more than half of the cargohold space. And yes, I still fly frigates (when I fly at all).

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2017-01-19 22:01:12 UTC
I'm also confused here. You are saying you want to sort bpc/o's into seperate cans and then carry a multitude of cans? Just put them in one can then sort them at the other end. It's the same amount of work so just do it at the other end and use the search filter to sort the bpo/c's.

If anything carrying a small can is screaming at anyone scanning your cargo 'THIS COULD BE EXPENSIVE!'...
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2017-01-19 22:45:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
I'm also confused here. You are saying you want to sort bpc/o's into seperate cans and then carry a multitude of cans?

If anything carrying a small can is screaming at anyone scanning your cargo 'THIS COULD BE EXPENSIVE!'...

I think he's saying he wants to carry just one can, but maybe he wants to carry other items with the remaining cargo space.

If smaller (say 10m3) cans were available, I would put them into probably most of my frigates and destroyers. While I would sometimes use them for shipping and storing BPCs, probably what I would be more inclined to use them for is either small ammo or salvage. Getting one of my cheap frigates ganked over having the can is just icing on top.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Lugh Crow-Slave
#14 - 2017-01-19 22:57:59 UTC
why bother with a can for that fitters work much better for things like ammo and salvage

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Ji7 Aldard
Shield Nation
Rising Dominion
#15 - 2017-01-19 23:05:42 UTC
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
I'm also confused here. You are saying you want to sort bpc/o's into seperate cans and then carry a multitude of cans? Just put them in one can then sort them at the other end. It's the same amount of work so just do it at the other end and use the search filter to sort the bpo/c's.

If anything carrying a small can is screaming at anyone scanning your cargo 'THIS COULD BE EXPENSIVE!'...


the thing is when I have things already sorted at the start I dont want to mix them all in and then spend time to split them again. mostly Im not the one sorting them to begin with so sorting them at my destination is not an valid option.
Ji7 Aldard
Shield Nation
Rising Dominion
#16 - 2017-01-19 23:07:55 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
why bother with a can for that fitters work much better for things like ammo and salvage



I would like to see a filter that works for spliting 10 Azbel build sets :) good luck with that.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#17 - 2017-01-19 23:21:19 UTC
Would you like there to be even one single tradeoff to your utterly risk free blueprint hauling taxiceptor?
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2017-01-20 00:32:37 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Would you like there to be even one single tradeoff to your utterly risk free blueprint hauling taxiceptor?

What does risk-free intercepter-hauling have to do with this proposal? He's not proposing affecting the risk of hauling in an interceptor, he is talking about arranging objects in frigate cargoholds.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Shu t'Me
#19 - 2017-01-20 02:01:58 UTC
Ji7 Aldard wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
why bother with a can for that fitters work much better for things like ammo and salvage



I would like to see a filter that works for spliting 10 Azbel build sets :) good luck with that.

Filter by name, containing part 1
filter by name, containing part 2
filter by name, containing part 3
etc.

Then just pick however many parts you need out of the resulting filtered list.

Yeah, I know it's rocket surgery, but it does work.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#20 - 2017-01-20 08:10:11 UTC
I really don't see any downside to this suggestion. Question: Would you be able to password-protect or otherwise lock these cases like standard containers, deploy them in space, etc.?

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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