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Eve Federal Credit Union [EFCU] Now Open!

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Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-01-17 09:29:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarnis McPieksu
Bumblefck wrote:

Says the unknown alt (I don't care if you have a sec status of 1.5 or whatever it is, you're in an NPC corporation ergo you too are an alt - or at the least someone we shouldn't bother listening too).


I find your investigative skills lacking. Had you looked at all into who I am, you'd realize very quickly that I'm not an alt. I'm just someone who has been unsubbed from EVE for bit over an year due to :lolccp: and who dropped off from a player corp due to that. I have not yet landed at another player corp and I'm taking my time on that. As an older player I'm not in any rush to hop into any random corp just so I wouldn't be called names on EVE forums.

Funnily my alts are in player corps. Perhaps I should post with one of those instead?

Oh and I stand by my evaluation that this is most likely a ponzi scam or a very poor attempt to mask a bond to be something else (with no collateral or other safeguards). Having such words as "Federal" (lol) and "Credit Union" (huh?) in the name are also good indicators that the original poster is either scamming or just plain clueless.
Jacob Stiller
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-01-17 09:57:28 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
Look, another ponzi scam. How long has it been since the previous one? A week? Two weeks?

* Unknown alt? CHECK

* Offering rates that are well over what could be considered rational? CHECK

* No business plan to explain how the ISK comes in that pays those rates? CHECK
(At first had a "business plan" that involved re-loaning out that ISK at a lower rate, withdrawn once people noted that this was a bad business plan)

* No third party audits? CHECK

Yep, do invest your ISK. Nothing smelly here. I'm sure the first few might get some ISK returns as the ponzi is being built up but the problem with ponzi schemes is that you never know when the music stops and you lose everything that you've put in.




Says the unknown alt (I don't care if you have a sec status of 1.5 or whatever it is, you're in an NPC corporation ergo you too are an alt - or at the least someone we shouldn't bother listening too).


Oh, for the love of Cthulhu. This offering is essentially an open ended uncollateralized loan paying 3 times the typical interest rate. Go ahead and throw all of your savings into it. Guess somebody has to win the Darwin Award.
Levija Saplina
Ken Interplanetary Communication
#43 - 2012-01-17 10:03:26 UTC
I would like to apply for an uncollaterized loan of around 10 bil.

Please contact me.
Kristen EFCU
Doomheim
#44 - 2012-01-17 19:29:14 UTC
Quit trolling, Jerry Peppridge want to be. Do you realy think you half way cool totally ripping the EXACT phrase he used to use? Be original. lol
Nel Gardier
Time Sync
#45 - 2012-01-17 20:28:44 UTC
This seems interesting.

How about this OP. I'm not greedy. Just a small clip to look the other way.

Just 5% of the proceeds a week and you'll get my silence.
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#46 - 2012-01-17 21:08:05 UTC
Kristen EFCU wrote:
Quit trolling, Jerry Peppridge want to be. Do you realy think you half way cool totally ripping the EXACT phrase he used to use? Be original. lol




So you know who jerry is and are using an unnamed alt for what reason, exactly?



Oh, right. Scam, etc.
Ariana DeSoto
High-Tech Duct Tape
#47 - 2012-01-17 22:51:29 UTC
I enquire inserting up pledge 20 billion. You interest in wallet much when?

You pleasing to thank me,
Ariana

I don't always play EvE, but when I do, I prefer it to be a masochistic sandbox hell. Stay wardecked my friends.

Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2012-01-18 00:13:47 UTC
Kristen EFCU wrote:
Quit trolling, Jerry Peppridge want to be. Do you realy think you half way cool totally ripping the EXACT phrase he used to use? Be original. lol

you're accusing other people of unoriginality while being pretty bland yourself... Roll

MD has a knack for rewarding originality - think of business managers like rawcola and DragonRiderTao (there are a few other examples but I am too tired to remember their names).

Give us some excuse to invest in you, even if it's just so we can say "I'm glad I was a part of this, lol" after losing our money.
Eleonora Skye
Sushi Corp
#49 - 2012-01-18 16:57:29 UTC
2/10
Mara Villoso
Long Jump.
#50 - 2012-01-18 21:48:48 UTC
I thought the banks in eve trolling was over with a few months ago. P
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#51 - 2012-01-18 22:49:36 UTC
Mara Villoso wrote:
I thought the banks in eve trolling was over with a few months ago. P

Never stop trolling MD.
SencneS
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2012-01-19 03:17:44 UTC
Over the years nothing has changed.. A scammer who thinks they can "buy" their scam with a promises of high interest rate for what would be a small amount of ISK, always comes around with new faces. If it's not a scam, it's a very poorly thought out plan/offering.

There is no way 7.5% per billion would is an obtainable goal month after month.. Even at a low 20B deposited that's 1.5B ISK a month in interest to generate. While obtainable, consistently gathering this amount, month after month would turn into a task that requires dedication. The management of in-game operation to generate interets along with the meta-game bank is a tall order.

Be it scam or not, there is no way anyone should deposit anything into this institution.
Hexxx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2012-01-19 16:15:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Hexxx
SencneS wrote:
Over the years nothing has changed.. A scammer who thinks they can "buy" their scam with a promises of high interest rate for what would be a small amount of ISK, always comes around with new faces. If it's not a scam, it's a very poorly thought out plan/offering.

There is no way 7.5% per billion would is an obtainable goal month after month.. Even at a low 20B deposited that's 1.5B ISK a month in interest to generate. While obtainable, consistently gathering this amount, month after month would turn into a task that requires dedication. The management of in-game operation to generate interets along with the meta-game bank is a tall order.

Be it scam or not, there is no way anyone should deposit anything into this institution.



I wanted to highlight something Sencnes said here - that "The management of in-game operation to generate interest along with the meta-game bank is a tall order." people need to understand that trying to run any bank comes with a few challenges.


1. Customer Operations: The first challenge is customer-centric, you have to automate and bring transparency to the deposit of money, crediting interest to an account, showing the status of a withdraw request, updating account balances, and process multiple withdraw requests in the order in which they were received. That's just the basic stuff that you HAVE to do to build trust in the operating effectiveness of the bank. This is absolutely critical to achieving ridiculously low financing rates. You want these. Everybody will hate you for getting them.

2. Revenue: The second challenge is revenue. You've got to make a ton of it. EVE is purposefully designed to make revenue very hard to scale up - the more money you want to make, the more work you need to do. There are very few scalable revenue options in EVE - mostly they consist of automatable out-of-game revenue streams (mythical, but possible in theory), low effort/high reward out-of-game revenue streams (loans), and low effort/high reward in-game revenue streams (large scale market manipulation and highly intelligent commodity trading). There are no automatable in-game revenue streams.

3. Reporting: This is tough. Historically I've been on the wrong side of the argument for reporting. I've been wrong basically. Reporting is really important for internal and external purposes...but chiefly internal. It is all too easy to dismiss hard detailed internal reporting in favor of gut instinct and your own subjective judgment. Make decisions subjectively in the absence of hard data is a great way to make large mistakes in record time. I speak from experience. Nobody is that smart, but everybody thinks they are. But hey...I avoided the really hard part - how do you do it? They are difficult to design and build, namely because of the need to do some kind of cost accounting to properly speak to their profitability.
Rasz Lin
#54 - 2012-01-19 17:13:43 UTC
Finally a reliable bank/credit union in EVE!

Lets start by YOU giving ME a 2-5B loan.
Zeta Zhul
Preemptive Paranoia
#55 - 2012-01-19 22:24:04 UTC
SencneS wrote:
Over the years nothing has changed.. A scammer who thinks they can "buy" their scam with a promises of high interest rate for what would be a small amount of ISK, always comes around with new faces. If it's not a scam, it's a very poorly thought out plan/offering.

There is no way 7.5% per billion would is an obtainable goal month after month.. Even at a low 20B deposited that's 1.5B ISK a month in interest to generate. While obtainable, consistently gathering this amount, month after month would turn into a task that requires dedication. The management of in-game operation to generate interets along with the meta-game bank is a tall order.

Be it scam or not, there is no way anyone should deposit anything into this institution.


50mil isk/day is out of reach?

I'll fully admit that it can be tedious at times but 50mil/day on 20b deposited doesn't seem outrageously impossible.

But then, what do I know?
clamslayer
Doomheim
#56 - 2012-01-19 23:31:02 UTC
Kristen EFCU wrote:
Hello and welcome, Eve Federal Credit Union is now open for busniess!

Savings Bonds
Savings bonds of many interest rates can be attained. Dpeneidng on how much is your savings bond, determines the interest rate given. Returning customers will attain reward points, and given better rates.

1-10 Million ISK - 2%
10-50 Million ISK - 3%
50-100 Million ISK - 4%
100-500 Million ISK - 5%
500 Mil - 1 Billion ISK - 6%
1 Billion+ ISK - 7.5%

To send your ISK add Eve Federal Credit Union as a contact, right click>give money and the amount. In reason just put savings bond, and how many months you desire. I will send a confirmation message.

Interest is paid out weekly, every Sunday at 20:00 Eve time. The min. time for savings bond is 30 days, you can extend time if you wish. If you opt. to pull the ISK out early you will lose all interest for that current week.

If you have any questions, comments or concerns, feel free to reply or evemail me ingame! Look forward to conducting business with everyone.

Also, I request a Mod monitor this thread to minimize trolling, thank you! Lol


I hope you dont waste too much of your life on this fail endeavor lol



Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2012-01-20 11:43:50 UTC
Zeta Zhul wrote:
50mil isk/day is out of reach?

I'll fully admit that it can be tedious at times but 50mil/day on 20b deposited doesn't seem outrageously impossible.

But then, what do I know?


No... but you have to realise that once you get that 50 mil/day you just managed to break even. You need to keep going if you want to make any ISK for yourself (which presumably, you would)

Then scale it up. Take it to 100 Billion - now you have to make 250 million a day just to break even... every day. Skip a day for whatever reason and you have to make up for the loss...

Doable? Perhaps, but it's more of a chore than anything else. After a while people who put themselves under that much pressure have a very strong incentive to just say "oh sod it all" and run with the money.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#58 - 2012-01-20 16:53:13 UTC
It's fairly irrelevant anyway, as the 1 day old scam alt who created this thread hasn't logged in for 3 days now. Lol
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