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Marauder PVP?
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Lugh Crow-Slave
#21 - 2017-01-19 16:41:14 UTC
Old Pervert wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
I see these things ratting all the time in WH where there is no local or intel they seem to be doing just fine



you don't seem to be upset about how useful this ship is in pvp but how weak a PvE fit ship is in pvp. with a pvp fit these things can take on rather large gangs solo and do not need any more advantages


They can absolutely take on a rather large gang. And what I'm advocating will not really improve their odds at all against a gang (as was said earlier, a gang will probably have a scram anyways). What I'm advocating will give them a slight GTFO IFF they happen to spool up their MJD before the initial tackle lands on them.



but thats just it eve is about risk vs reward if you want the power that comes from a bastion tank you are going to need to take on more risk. just like with the rorq or a dread

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Cade Windstalker
#22 - 2017-01-19 20:16:32 UTC
OP, and anyone else curious about this, I direct you to the almost 400 page thread from the original Marauder rebalance. Pretty much exactly that was proposed at some point (like five times) during that thread, there's probably either A. some good discussion or B. an answer addressing this somewhere in that thread.

In either case what's definitely in there is a lot said by CCP on the role of Marauders and the trade-offs the Bastion module is supposed to provide.

The really really short summary? Marauders aren't supposed to be PvP pwn mobiles. They see some limited use and that's fine.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#23 - 2017-01-20 00:55:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Mina Sebiestar
Dislike bastion since it went live in game

Kronos and Paladin had 90% web bonus before and all of them got drone bay reduction and Vargur got butchered its speed and agility, mass added etc.

Some nice pvp virtues got replaced for what?

Giant self tackling punch bags they are not marauders any more... you take bastion and dig out potato from your garden stick it on scan it in game and voila there's your marauder,hull doesn't matter its all about the module remove module and these ships are garbage material < i just dont EVE like this it is abysmally lame i will never use it in PVP as long as i am sober cant support lame gameplay on any level.

Projection tank ewar too much in module too little in ships i would honestly like to see it smashed properly with a nerfbat and some less carebare / lame variations got out something fitting the name marauder not making them immobile pigs dressed in bullet vests.

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#24 - 2017-01-20 02:26:36 UTC
Yes, the great web nerf of 2015... gone but apparently not forgotten.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#25 - 2017-01-20 10:23:12 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Dislike bastion since it went live in game

Kronos and Paladin had 90% web bonus before and all of them got drone bay reduction and Vargur got butchered its speed and agility, mass added etc.

Some nice pvp virtues got replaced for what?

Giant self tackling punch bags they are not marauders any more... you take bastion and dig out potato from your garden stick it on scan it in game and voila there's your marauder,hull doesn't matter its all about the module remove module and these ships are garbage material < i just dont EVE like this it is abysmally lame i will never use it in PVP as long as i am sober cant support lame gameplay on any level.

Projection tank ewar too much in module too little in ships i would honestly like to see it smashed properly with a nerfbat and some less carebare / lame variations got out something fitting the name marauder not making them immobile pigs dressed in bullet vests.



i rarely found my self using these ships in pvp before bastion after bastion they have become amazing to use in fleets of 2-3. from your description it doesn't seem like its a bad or "lame" change just a change that doesnt fit your play style

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
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