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The Formula

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LordOdysseus
HIgh Sec Care Bears
Brothers of Tangra
#1 - 2017-01-18 05:43:22 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#2 - 2017-01-18 08:00:09 UTC
LordOdysseus wrote:
The formula to live life with minimal effort and maximum gains.

Do you agree/disagree with him? Why? Why not?


Solipsism works well right until reality knocks on the door. I rather agree more with inspirational thoughts about adapting.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#3 - 2017-01-18 11:20:35 UTC
Lats assume you have a job to do, sometimes you have to work a solution to do it in less time so you can laze around longer.

Anyway you still have job to do.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#4 - 2017-01-19 01:40:09 UTC
I liked his talk, but I can't agree 100%. The ideas pretty much fall into modern spiritualism thought. (All of that tends to get lumped together into "New Age," which is unfortunate but I suppose OK. What's called "New Age" isn't all yoga pants aroma therapy, and/or chemtrails, etc. It's a wild spectrum of about any kind of current philosophical thought/speculation/discussion, from string theory and the Buddha, neurological systems and the influence of electromagnetic storms, trendy hipster wabisabi-ism, Quakerism, regurgitarianism (not really)-- you name it. O, ye internet! O ye modern sayers of your minds!)

Anyway, I agree with his thought about the Formula for always manifesting in your mind where you want to be. At the very least, you have to take the quiet time to sort through what that is. Can't be but a good thing. Smile
LordOdysseus
HIgh Sec Care Bears
Brothers of Tangra
#5 - 2017-01-25 02:35:19 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
I liked his talk, but I can't agree 100%. The ideas pretty much fall into modern spiritualism thought. (All of that tends to get lumped together into "New Age," which is unfortunate but I suppose OK. What's called "New Age" isn't all yoga pants aroma therapy, and/or chemtrails, etc. It's a wild spectrum of about any kind of current philosophical thought/speculation/discussion, from string theory and the Buddha, neurological systems and the influence of electromagnetic storms, trendy hipster wabisabi-ism, Quakerism, regurgitarianism (not really)-- you name it. O, ye internet! O ye modern sayers of your minds!)

Anyway, I agree with his thought about the Formula for always manifesting in your mind where you want to be. At the very least, you have to take the quiet time to sort through what that is. Can't be but a good thing. Smile


The problem with Bashar is his teachings never makes sense unless it is a fully fledged book or workshop(which the latter he did almost a hundred of them) where he explains each concept's mechanics in tedious detail. He did a workshop for the formula and it is 4 hours long. Another downside is he charges a fortune for each video. The good thing however, is he doesn't claim he is right. He always say "do what works for you" and shares exercise after exercise for those who ask it.

I'm more of a Esther Hicks fan myself to be honest. I comprehend her teachings easier than Bashar's.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#6 - 2017-01-28 01:55:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
I spent about six years in various depths of involvement with what could be called the 'metaphysical community' in the U.S. I think what Bashar is saying is pretty much the general premises that everyone fundamentally agree on. Of course, there a unlimited traditions or approaches that people come from, or frame their beliefs from. Wicca/druidism, Vedic teachings, Lakota shamanism/spirituality, esoteric yoga, Urantia book, crystals, Tibetan Buddhism, naturism/Earth and Earth lifeforms connection, reiki, Tai Chi Taoism, Sufism, Peruvian shamanism, Music of the Spheres/harmonic resonance/beauty of physics, etc., etc. Discussing with like-minded people can be hard, because everybody (in America at least) wants to talk about the things they've learned from their own 'tradition.' But in the end, everybody seems to agree on the same basic idea. I think the film "What the (Bleep) Do We Know" summarizes and presents that really well.

A few IMO observations:
-At some point after being learners from many various sources, many people have unique insights and they want to share them. Not to the whole world maybe, but just to beginners like they were. The problem is, many decide that it's time to give up living in the filthy lucre world and give up their day jobs. Sadly, for most it's not long before they're doing self-promotion, trying to brand themselves, and trying to recruit people for paid seminars. That building a guru brand cycle turns horrible vicious. You can imagine why-- it's because the only people in your circle, who might be your student-- are mostly also people who are experienced learners, and considering going pro. To make matters worse, very few of you have any money to spare. Even if you had plenty before, the journey and materialism just didn't mix. So, broke. Building a brand and filling seminars in that kind of environment takes a special type of person. Just saying.

-The old philosophies (Hinduism, Buddhism, Druidism, West African animism, whatever at all) over many years developed traditions to prevent the above situation. Over centuries of observation and campfire, candle, and oil lamp discussions, they little by little agreed on what could be accepted truths. About universally, each tradition created an initiation, hard apprenticeship, real learning, and graduation process. Anybody who was in it for ego, fame, fortune, or attention chose to get out at the apprenticeship phase. No prob if you don't want to be Kwai Chang Caine discussing with Master Po learned as an apprentice, and after. Just not a good match, that's all.

-IMO, anything that is said in the 'Metaphysical Movement' now has been thought through and said 10,000 times before, but with more refinement. The formulae are there, and questions about the formulae, and about infinite questions and answers about The Formula. People reject them, because they associate them with Religion, which can be and mostly is a horrible beast, IMO. But if they do that, it's like watching only TV commercials and saying "We have reviewed the visual arts, and this is our conclusion." If you read the original sources, they are really cool. Amazingly, amazingly intellectually cool, and right on and beyond our modern age.

Sorry about that, I go fly my ship now. :)

P.S. If anyone is interested in this stuff, I'd recommend this: What the (bleep) do we know? Smart guys thinking scientifically, obvious outcomes and conclusions. It's 'New Agey,' but more about thinking and projecting conclusions than about 'faith.'