EVE General Discussion

If you need to ask such a questions then a Titan will be useless for said person. Hope this helps

With regards to paying for play, if you can afford it there's absolutely nothing wrong with buying $100 worth of plex from CCP and selling it for isk to buy ships and stuff. Sometimes people's schedules or game play preferences make it worthwhile. It's nice to have that flexibility at times.

If you define "winning" by having a Citadel and Titan, than EvE is pay to win. But I believe by the time you get close to even considering to build those, you'll probably know better.

In my opinion EvE is pay to lose more when stuff hits the fan.

I also don't have the reference, but at some stage there was a figure given out of about 30-40k per month using Plex. So about 10% of subscribed users Plex if that is still accurate.

You can do that, but it doesn't mean you win. It only means you have a shiny toy for someone and a few hundred of their friends to blap. The game is not pay-to-win, not even close, if spending more money doesn't guarantee victory. which owning a Titan/Citadel does not do. Additionally, you don't win EVE. EVE wins you.

How often do you get somebody coming out to wreck your car just because it's there?

Compare with Titan and Citadel, which are high investment items that are destructible.

Not to mention frankly, Titans and Citadels are bloody useless for anything short of Alliance-level activities anyway. Titans can't really navigate anywhere well without the aid of someone with a cynosural beacon and they are too slow to evade hordes of other players flying ships that they will have trouble tracking. Citadels are extremely time and resource-consuming massive objects that will require frequent maintenance by the player, maintenance that takes time away from doing other things like, I don't know, shoot the other guy three systems over in the face.

Why the heck do you want to have these as a solo player?

That is a very good point Elmund. Make sense. Thanks. I will explain that to my friends.

In most other MMOs, the bigger the thing the better it is. In Eve Online, things are a lot more complex.

Sure, big things are pretty impressive in Eve Online. However, the big things tend to require alot more support due to, you know, being big and therefore a huge target. Big things need friends, probably many, many friends, to watch over them so that they can throw their weight around without getting blobbed by a couple hundred buzzing little things with their little guns. In nearly every case, the bigger the thing, the bigger the support it is going to need. As such, big things only really shine in big alliances.

In the hands of solo or small-group players, big things are big coffins. They do not have the kind of numbers to support and to keep their big things safe so that they can throw their weight around without getting blobbed by a couple hundred buzzing little things with their little guns. For solo or small-group, smaller is probably much more worth the trouble because smaller things have a much easier time staying away from the couple hundred buzzing little things and, in the right hands, pick them off and stay away from the bulk of their numbers.

Not to mention it's much easier to replace the small things than the big things anyway.

some People have the money to play the game but not much time to grind for ingame money so they sub and buy Plex to make the most fun out of their limited time. Others have a lot of time to make Isk but not much real money. So they make the Isk ingame and sell it for game time aka Plex. Both sides get served. And it doesn't say a thing about the skills of someone.
P2W has nothing to do with it. Titans and Supercarriers are good but rarely used. And getting the money even for other shiny ships is not so hard.
And the value calculations are even wrong because you can make a lot more then 1.2B Isk. Price of a Plex at the moment, in a month.

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