Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The main thing that gets you into, or keeps you into eve, is corporations.

But then you get war decced and it ruins the whole experience.

CCP you must remove war decs (or make them opt in) ASAP.

This is the single most important thing you MUST do.

because his corp probably just got wardeced and he cant carebear misions in his drake while being safe from other players

Taking some basic precautions and not flying your freighter into jita on an in corp character is too much like hard work then?

Why, exactly, do you think that you should be safe from non consensual PVP in highsec?

Hell. What's stopping you making your isk in null if wardecs are scary?

You know you can make ISK even more readily in nullsec right?

However that aside, I disagree with your OP. Removing Wardecs would be a terrible move by CCP.

Cos he's a massive raging coward that's afraid of a couple of messers.

Jeasus lads ye realize there's only like six official mercs listed, only two of whom will leave the hubs.

With us as one of them.

Literally everyone else waging war can be slapped about and they'll feck off if you leave them with a bloody nose at the end of it.

ah i see.


GUYS i found the man is capable of truly determining what is factual fun !!!!!


in all honesty eve has lived as long as it has because you cant be safe anyplace it is the only MMO where this is true if that is not the kind of game you want go find another.

but what can we expect from a generation that was never given a chance to learn they can't always win

Would you stop posting if we targeted you specifically?

While true, it also paradoxically forces people to band together and form bonds with others for "safety."
After all... two people are better than one.
And many people banded together against a common threat gives you a distinct advantage against any one foe.


I suspect that your problem is that you don't have strong or experienced leadership to guide you through conflict.

When I was a nubbin, my newbie corporation was wardecced quite a few times. Yes, some people dropped out of the game.
But those that stayed attempted to find solutions to "fix" the problem. And THAT ACT ALONE has helped us become "powerful" in such a way that wardeccers do not bother us anymore.

Examples:
Wardeccers threatening your mission running activities?
Form a small gang. One or two people run the mission (preferably NOT in slow, bulky ships) while others, in Electronic Warfare ships, cover the mission running ships' escape in case the hostiles enter the mission complex.

Blitz the missions as fast as possible, share the rewards, blitz some more.
While you earn less money per mission (due to sharing) you can complete more of them, more quickly, to compensate (because you have more people contributing more firepower to kill more things)

And you will earn more ISK than you would had you stayed in a station and simply logged off.
Plus you get the feeling that you are getting away with something (like stealing candy from the kitchen when your parents have told you not to have candy).


Wardeccers camping you in a station?
Have someone with an out-of-corporation character to haul in some Electronic Warfare ships.
Fit them up cheaply (so ISK loss is minimal), then mass undock and spam them with Ewar (I recommend ECM).

Even if the wardeccers are using "high-end" ships... having enough people spamming them will make things EXTREMELY frustrating.
Maybe the wardeccers dock up themselves... giving the rest of your group a chance to undock and escape.

You can kick this up a notch or two by taking a page out of the "suicide ganker's handbook" and fit up cheap, high-DPS ships to swarm and nuke the most expensive thing on field.
Sure, many of you will die... but if successful you will give the wardeccers a "black-eye" they won't soon forget.



Wardeccers camping the stargates?
Use the same tactic as with the undock. Again, you want to make entanglements with your group as frustrating as possible (so wardeccers go to "greener pastures").


Wardeccers outnumber you?
See if you can get in contact with other groups that are also at war with the wardeccers.
With a little diplomacy, you may be able to consolidate your manpower and resources so that you can "push back."


Wardeccers using "fancy tricks?"
There is no rule that says you have to directly fight your aggressors. Guerrilla Warfare is a thing in EVE.
If your enemy hits hard, don't give them targets to hit.
If your enemy blocks a route, don't take that route.
If your enemy is cunning, be less predictable.
If your enemy lives in a certain area, relocate.
If your enemy has all the advantages you can think of, even the "playing field" and go someplace where others are just as likely to shoot them as they are to shoot you (see: low-sec).

"Victory" is an abstract concept and you can "win" simply by making your enemy angry.


Also note that none of the examples above are mutually exclusive.
You can (and I recommend you do) combine them for maximum effect.

What you are asking for is reward without risk. You can't have that in a game with a player driven economy. Eve works because there is a balance between predators and prey. Stuff has value because supply is constrained. You can thrive in this game by managing the risk - that's a player skill, not a character skill.

Just stay out of HS. PvE is safer in null anyway